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View Poll Results: Which of the following could best stand as its own nation?
California 48 53.33%
Texas 29 32.22%
New England 13 14.44%
Voters: 90. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-13-2019, 09:31 AM
 
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Don’t know if I agree with your first and third points. Plenty of crops grow in New England, and there are the fish off the coast. There’s no guarantee that New York would want a hard border with an independent New England, so Fairfield County might still be ok.
Google is telling me New England produces about 10% of the food it consumes. And with 2/3rds of inhabitants centered on Boston, you’d have a country almost wholly dependent on the health and well-being of one city. It’s a recipe for a disaster.

And soft borders matter not when it comes to taxes. Most New Yorkers will find a new bedroom community.
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Old 09-13-2019, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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Another point against New England is that the people don’t want to secede, unlike Texans and Californians. The New England Secession movement predates the civil war, and a lot has changed since then.
True, unless you're Vermont.
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Old 09-13-2019, 10:21 AM
 
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I voted for California. Here's hoping...
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Old 09-13-2019, 10:22 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Google is telling me New England produces about 10% of the food it consumes. And with 2/3rds of inhabitants centered on Boston, you’d have a country almost wholly dependent on the health and well-being of one city. It’s a recipe for a disaster.

And soft borders matter not when it comes to taxes. Most New Yorkers will find a new bedroom community.
And California produces 15% of the food for the entire U.S.A., by far the most of any state. This doesn’t even include the food it exports. This, and countless other reasons is why California is the number one answer to this question. The thread really should be titled “After California which....”.

If you were to step back and look at this objectively there’s no other clear choice for number #1. Texas is clearly number #2.
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Old 09-13-2019, 10:54 AM
 
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If California seceded from the US, the US would be the second leading country in terms of advanced technology.
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Old 09-13-2019, 11:04 AM
 
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And California produces 15% of the food for the entire U.S.A., by far the most of any state. This doesn’t even include the food it exports. This, and countless other reasons is why California is the number one answer to this question. The thread really should be titled “After California which....”.

If you were to step back and look at this objectively there’s no other clear choice for number #1. Texas is clearly number #2.
Well, again, it’s probably the South and then California. But those would be the top tier.
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Old 09-13-2019, 11:19 AM
 
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And California produces 15% of the food for the entire U.S.A., by far the most of any state. This doesn’t even include the food it exports. This, and countless other reasons is why California is the number one answer to this question. The thread really should be titled “After California which....”.

If you were to step back and look at this objectively there’s no other clear choice for number #1. Texas is clearly number #2.
California #2
Texas #3
Dixie #1
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Old 09-13-2019, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
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If you are calling New England a potential country, and Dixie a potential country, I think you have to roll Oregon and Washington into California and call it the west coast. Seattle particularly as a high tech powerhouse should be included....IMO.
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Old 09-13-2019, 12:36 PM
 
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If you are calling New England a potential country, and Dixie a potential country, I think you have to roll Oregon and Washington into California and call it the west coast. Seattle particularly as a high tech powerhouse should be included....IMO.

That would also open up some water sources for California. If California bailed out, all that water they import would go away. I suppose their agriculture industry would adapt to the loss of all that water welfare but you're not raising cattle, almonds, and pistachios in California when you have to pay market rate for water.
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Old 09-13-2019, 05:29 PM
 
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IMHO it's the the Nation State of California. You can also expand it north to include Oregon and Washington and call it Pacifica.
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