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Nope, you opined that because of a homelessness statistic, therefore my statement is incorrect, and your wrong.
In fact, I said in that post that nowhere is perfect and every city has their issues, but that said, I can think of no other area where minorities and immigrants are more prominent and empowered to succeed, than the Bay Area-and I stand by that.
Certain minorities and certain immigrants is my point and I stand by that.
None of these San Francisco stats is that impressive due to the outrageous COL.
The group that looks like they have it the toughest are Hispanics in Boston. Median Household income of 46k in a metro where the average home goes for 550k. Couple that with little political power and it easy to see why it’s such a low opportunity area for Hispanics. And why Massachusetts was named the worst state for Hispanics. https://www.bostonglobe.com/business...outputType=amp
When talking about the Bay Area there are a few things to keep in mind:
1) It’s the least black major metro area in the US and it’s black population is decreasing. It would probably stand to reason that blacks that still remain there have either been there for generations and feel too tied to the area to leave or have extremely high salaries to match the cost of living. The poor and middle class would more than likely be the ones leaving due to costs associated with living there.
2) The Bay Area is the most expensive region to live in the US. It does however have the highest salaries in the US to help compensate. But when cost of living is factored in, those numbers become a lot less impressive. The average household income for blacks in San Francisco is 59000. However, when cost of living is factored in, that’s about 30000 in a place like Dallas, Houston, or Atlanta and the overage income in those cities is well above that.
3) Looking at the Bay Areas gap between average white and average black income, it’s one of the highest gaps in the US if not the highest.
I’m not saying this to hate on the Bay Area. I have greater respect for it than LA because at least salaries are higher overall to attempt to compensate for the COL whereas that isn’t the case in LA. It’s the reason I fly to LA every week as opposed to move back there. But looking at average salaries alone without factoring in COL is quite hollow IMO.
Here is some data on the Hispanic communities of each by MSA. For now, Ill divide it up by region of Latin America. I have all of the top 20 metro areas as well as all metro areas with more than 500k Hispanics:
Total Hispanic Population by MSA:
Los Angeles: 6,003,538
New York: 4,924,385
Miami: 2,841,433
Houston: 2,632,586
Riverside: 2,386,270
Dallas/Fort Worth: 2,189,777
Chicago: 2,128,297
Phoenix: 1,515,683
San Diego: 1,135,348
San Francisco: 1,039,915
Washington DC: 1,009,795
Orlando: 809,852
Austin: 707,964
Las Vegas: 701,766
Denver: 680,087
Atlanta: 646,761
Tampa: 629,987
Philadelphia: 591,878
Boston: 562,958
San Jose: 527,780
Sacramento: 512,246
Seattle: 402,525
Minneapolis: 217,078
Detroit: 197,142
Mexican Population by MSA:
Los Angeles: 4,615,270
Riverside: 2,067,425
Houston: 1,937,071
Dallas/Fort Worth: 1,788,013
Chicago: 1,686,742
Phoenix: 1,302,367
San Diego: 1,010,075
San Francisco: 675,352
New York: 603,606
Austin: 579,514
Las Vegas: 527,011
Denver: 508,214
San Jose: 442,039
Sacrament: 416,385
Atlanta: 352,355
Seattle: 278,561
Miami: 155,388
Detroit: 140,558
Minneapolis: 137,568
Washington DC: 136,588
Tampa: 114,504
Philadelphia: 113,149
Orlando: 79,125
Boston: 36,035
Puerto Rican Population by MSA:
New York: 1,231,992
Orlando: 397,695
Philadelphia: 286,490
Miami: 239,780
Chicago: 205,958
Tampa: 205,594
Boston: 134,161
Washington DC: 74,071
Atlanta: 65,741
Houston: 56,630
Los Angeles: 55,927
Dallas/Fort Worth: 50,095
Phoenix: 43,190
Riverside: 36,026
San Francisco: 33,007
Seattle: 26,844
San Diego: 25,011
Detroit: 22,290
Las Vegas: 21,850
Austin: 21,838
Denver: 19,878
Sacramento: 17,727
Minneapolis: 14,438
San Jose: 12,029
Cuban Population by MSA:
Miami: 1,181,567
New York: 156,974
Tampa: 140,117
Orlando: 62,292
Los Angeles: 50,228
Houston: 38,759
Las Vegas: 32,055
Dallas/Fort Worth: 26,265
Atlanta: 25,427
Chicago: 23,926
Washington DC: 19,452
Riverside: 16,775
Philadelphia: 13,966
Phoenix: 13,868
San Francisco: 11,336
Boston: 11,299
Austin: 8,365
San Diego: 7,196
Denver: 6,631
Seattle: 5,214
Minneapolis: 4,912
Sacramento: 4,350
Detroit: 3,976
San Jose: 3,087
Central American population by MSA:
Los Angeles: 922,895
New York: 578,266
Washington DC: 497,441
Miami: 411,717
Houston: 391,644
San Francisco: 188,471
Dallas/Fort Worth: 183,660
Riverside: 132,131
Boston: 122,810
Atlanta: 104,159
Chicago: 71,173
Las Vegas: 62,049
Orlando: 48,664
Philadelphia: 45,191
Phoenix: 45,065
Seattle: 44,309
Tampa: 41,084
Austin: 37,276
Denver: 30,105
San Diego: 27,692
San Jose: 27,448
Sacramento: 25,850
Minneapolis: 24,329
Detroit: 6,289
South American population by MSA (does not include Brazil, French Guyana, Guyana, and Suriname):
New York: 963,113
Miami: 647,939
Washington DC: 187,931
Los Angeles: 157,261
Orlando: 142,791
Houston: 110,890
Chicago: 83,290
Boston: 74,869
Tampa: 72,886
Dallas/Fort Worth: 62,301
San Francisco: 60,435
Atlanta: 58,473
Philadelphia: 47,150
Riverside: 47,150
San Diego: 25,335
Las Vegas: 23,817
Seattle: 22,128
Minneapolis: 21,627
Denver: 19,941
Phoenix: 19,914
San Jose: 16,994
Austin: 16,722
Sacramento: 15,077
Detroit: 7,466
big up. i have a few dominican friends. do we know their numbers ?
in the o.p., would an afro-domican be counted as black; x-or, hispanic ?
None of these San Francisco stats is that impressive due to the outrageous COL.
Oh? Then explain this?
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Originally Posted by marothisu
Census Data: The percentage of people by MSA who spend 35% or more of their income on rent.
1. San Jose MSA: 36.4%
2. Nashville MSA: 36.6%
3. Phoenix MSA: 37.4%
4T. Charlotte MSA: 37.5%
4T. San Francisco MSA: 37.5%
6. Minneapolis MSA: 37.6%
7T. Dallas MSA: 37.8%
7T. Seattle MSA: 37.8%
9T. Washington DC MSA: 38.2%
9T. St. Louis MSA: 38.2%
11. Boston MSA: 39.2%
12. Austin MSA: 39.4%
13. Chicago MSA: 39.5%
14. Jacksonville MSA: 39.6%
15. Portland MSA: 39.9%
16. Detroit MSA: 40.1%
17. Atlanta MSA: 40.5%
18T. Houston MSA: 40.8%
18T. San Antonio MSA: 40.8%
20. Baltimore MSA: 41%
21. Denver MSA: 41.6%
22. Philadelphia MSA: 42.2%
23. NYC MSA: 43.2%
24T. Las Vegas MSA: 43.4%
24T. Tampa MSA: 43.4%
26. Honolulu MSA: 44.6%
27. Sacramento MSA: 46%
28. Orlando MSA: 46.3%
29. San Diego MSA: 48.2%
30. Riverside, CA MSA: 49.9%
31. New Orleans MSA: 50.6%
32. Miami MSA: 52.7%
33. Los Angeles MSA: 56.9%
So the Bay Area is the most expensive yes but has one of the lowest percentages of people who spend more than 35% on rent?
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Er everyone else
2018 4M+ CSAs/MSAs by Racial Group Median Household Income(Number of Households)
Black Median HH Income(# of HHs)
$66,432 Washington(896,035)
$59,830 San Francisco(192,027)
$58,369 Seattle(92,794)
$54,353 Boston(187,108)
$53,105 New York(1,362,957)
$52,860 Atlanta(756,826)
$52,088 Los Angeles(488,405)
$51,148 Phoenix(93,895)
$48,218 Dallas(455,757)
$46,869 Houston(451,521)
$44,100 Miami(418,851)
$41,779 Philadelphia(521,952)
$41,050 Chicago(601,786)
$35,457 Detroit(439,025)
Asian Median HH Income(# of HHs)
$127,832 San Francisco(716,738)
$112,091 Washington(258,277)
$101,276 Seattle(211,014)
$96,235 Boston(168,068)
$93,523 New York(790,146)
$92,714 Detroit(78,121)
$92,269 Phoenix(61,308)
$91,601 Dallas(170,595)
$89,452 Houston(171,121)
$87,586 Chicago(221,761)
$84,347 Atlanta(116,494)
$83,271 Philadelphia(128,825)
$82,523 Los Angeles(817,977)
$66,241 Miami(51,775)
White Median HH Income(# of HHs)
$113,097 San Francisco(1,480,699)
$105,966 Washington(2,020,457)
$95,826 New York (4,708,481)
$87,040 Seattle(1,347,748)
$86,798 Los Angeles(2,438,793)
$85,710 Houston(1,045,000)
$85,288 Boston(2,467,683)
$83,463 Chicago(2,217,539)
$81,905 Philadelphia(1,789,596)
$81,161 Dallas(1,523,337)
$80,412 Atlanta(1,269,927)
$70,973 Phoenix(1,131,828)
$68,200 Detroit(1,498,586)
$67,734 Miami(997,162)
Hispanic Median HH Income(# of HHs)
$73,789 San Francisco(576,277)
$71,916 Washington(316,847)
$65,345 Seattle(133,632)
$59,845 Los Angeles(2,147,688)
$56,523 Chicago(587,969)
$54,342 Dallas(584,837)
$53,458 Atlanta(191,822)
$52,441 Phoenix(387,701)
$52,252 New York(1,703,527)
$51,683 Miami(918,170)
$50,815 Houston(728,087)
$50,491 Detroit(68,044)
$46,471 Boston(282,876)
$45,540 Philadelphia(223,472)
Multiracial Median HH Income(# of HHs)
$93,635 San Francisco(133,482)
$88,549 Washington(102,033)
$77,818 Seattle(81,918)
$76,805 Los Angeles(186,549)
$73,799 Dallas(55,043)
$72,246 Houston(45,614)
$65,897 New York(195,591)
$63,668 Boston(66,940)
$63,058 Chicago(67,929)
$62,284 Atlanta(43,212)
$56,381 Phoenix(42,636)
$56,348 Detroit(34,755)
$55,219 Philadelphia(47,075)
$54,279 Miami(45,013)
American Indian Median HH Income(# of HHs)
$91,052 Miami(4,582)
$85,985 San Francisco(16,381)
$71,607 Washington(10,455)
$68,372 Seattle(14,983)
$68,092 Dallas(18,205)
$66,145 Los Angeles(41,081)
$58,295 Houston(10,272)
$56,298 Chicago(10,718)
$51,966 Philadelphia(5,337)
$51,434 New York(26,198)
$45,095 Phoenix(31,665)
$41,735 Detroit(6,348(
$41,147 Boston(6,515)
$32,582 Atlanta(9,113)
Native Hawaiian-Pacific Islander Median HH Income(# of HHs)
$80,000 San Francisco(11,854)
$78,225 Boston(1,271)
$76,662 Los Angeles(13,570)
$74,453 Seattle(13,201)
$65,491 Houston N/A
$64,253 Washington(2,415)
$61,342 Phoenix(2,986)
$55,165 Philadelphia N/A
$48,170 New York(3,132)
$46,117 Dallas(2,795)
$33,809 Chicago(1,313)
$28,040 Miami N/A
#PromisedLand
Not sure if you can claim this as the promised land ahead of DC so easily. Look at the population numbers to the right as opposed to percentages. DC has 700,000 more Black households in its metro making a median income of 7k more than SF. That holds a LOT of weight. DC (larger metro) also has more total Whites by number making a household income comparable to the Whites in SF metro. SF leads with Asians, but not as sizeable a gap there is with Blacks in DC compared to SF. Hispanics aren't too far off in numbers and rank 1 and 2. I don't see that as a slam dunk to make it the "Promised Land".
Biggest surprise for me was the low percentage of Blacks in California cities, especially Los Angeles. I thought Oakland and LA were heavily Black.
DC is the black New York and Atlanta is the black LA, minus the water
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