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Not sure if you can claim this as the promised land ahead of DC so easily. Look at the population numbers to the right as opposed to percentages. DC has 700,000 more Black households in its metro making a median income of 7k more than SF. That holds a LOT of weight. DC (larger metro) also has more total Whites by number making a household income comparable to the Whites in SF metro. SF leads with Asians, but not as sizeable a gap there is with Blacks in DC compared to SF. Hispanics aren't too far off in numbers and rank 1 and 2. I don't see that as a slam dunk to make it the "Promised Land".
This is the United States, most people with ambition can succeed if they set goals and work hard-anywhere in this country.
But so many of those ambitious folks appear to have found their way to the Bay Area.
CSA Median Earnings Black Males:
$57,640 San Francisco
$53,741 Washington
$51,131 Los Angeles
$49,368 New York
$47,411 Boston
$46,301 Seattle
$46,240 Chicago
$45,373 Dallas
$43,852 Houston
$42,683 Atlanta
$41,269 Philadelphia
$39,705 Detroit
$34,132 Miami
CSA Median Earnings Asian Males:
$95,753 San Francisco
$85,010 Washington
$81,967 Detroit
$81,793 Boston
$75,076 Dallas
$74,873 Chicago
$71,365 New York
$70,429 Philadelphia
$70,304 Houston
$66,382 Atlanta
$61,416 Los Angeles
$51,475 Miami
CSA Median Earnings Hispanic Males:
$46,545 San Francisco
$43,458 Washington
$42,320 Boston
$42,261 Seattle
$41,364 New York
$41,243 Detroit
$39,580 Philadelphia
$39,473 Chicago
$37,421 Los Angeles
$37,248 Miami
$37,228 Houston
$37,192 Dallas
$35,380 Atlanta
Made a minor adjustment...lol "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden GATE!"
CSA Median Earnings Foreign Born Males:
$71,849 San Francisco
$65,794 Seattle
$64,678 Detroit
$56,797 Boston
$56,395 Washington
$51,243 New York
$50,707 Philadelphia
$46,992 Chicago
$41,719 Atlanta
$41,336 Dallas
$41,306 Los Angeles
$40,896 Houston
$36,560 Miami
CSA Foreign Born Residents Earning $75,000+:
868,939 New York 30.0% of all foreign born workers
553,676 San Francisco 44.8%
509,989 Los Angeles 21.4%
296,591 Washington 33.9%
194,209 Chicago 24.4%
191,317 Boston 32.6%
173,927 Miami 14.8%
173,713 Houston 22.2%
151,238 Dallas 20.7%
149,568 Seattle 39.8%
99,685 Atlanta 22.5%
97,231 Philadelphia 27.6%
75,867 Detroit 38.1%
But again, without factoring in COL it’s not a really good measure.
Actually after reading this below I dont really care about the COL argument anymore.
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Originally Posted by marothisu
I agree, although these are all MSA numbers and ultimately other numbers are going to tell us the bigger picture.
Here is one table which is the percentage of people by MSA who spend 35% or more of their income on rent. It's not counting mortgages which is a different table that I can do at another time. This is table B25070 - the lower the percentage, the better. These are just the ones I looked at for now and it's calculated only from computed households - non computed are excluded.
1. San Jose MSA: 36.4%
2. Nashville MSA: 36.6%
3. Phoenix MSA: 37.4%
4T. Charlotte MSA: 37.5%
4T. San Francisco MSA: 37.5%
6. Minneapolis MSA: 37.6%
7T. Dallas MSA: 37.8%
7T. Seattle MSA: 37.8%
9T. Washington DC MSA: 38.2%
9T. St. Louis MSA: 38.2%
11. Boston MSA: 39.2%
12. Austin MSA: 39.4%
13. Chicago MSA: 39.5%
14. Jacksonville MSA: 39.6%
15. Portland MSA: 39.9%
16. Detroit MSA: 40.1%
17. Atlanta MSA: 40.5%
18T. Houston MSA: 40.8%
18T. San Antonio MSA: 40.8%
20. Baltimore MSA: 41%
21. Denver MSA: 41.6%
22. Philadelphia MSA: 42.2%
23. NYC MSA: 43.2%
24T. Las Vegas MSA: 43.4%
24T. Tampa MSA: 43.4%
26. Honolulu MSA: 44.6%
27. Sacramento MSA: 46%
28. Orlando MSA: 46.3%
29. San Diego MSA: 48.2%
30. Riverside, CA MSA: 49.9%
31. New Orleans MSA: 50.6%
32. Miami MSA: 52.7%
33. Los Angeles MSA: 56.9%
Apparently the struggle is worse everywhere else. Yikes.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 18Montclair
This is the United States, most people with ambition can succeed if they set goals and work hard-anywhere in this country.
But so many of those ambitious folks appear to have found their way to the Bay Area.
CSA Median Earnings Black Males:
$57,640 San Francisco
$53,741 Washington
$51,131 Los Angeles
$49,368 New York
$47,411 Boston
$46,301 Seattle
$46,240 Chicago
$45,373 Dallas
$43,852 Houston
$42,683 Atlanta
$41,269 Philadelphia
$39,705 Detroit
$34,132 Miami
CSA Median Earnings Asian Males:
$95,753 San Francisco
$85,010 Washington
$81,967 Detroit
$81,793 Boston
$75,076 Dallas
$74,873 Chicago
$71,365 New York
$70,429 Philadelphia
$70,304 Houston
$66,382 Atlanta
$61,416 Los Angeles
$51,475 Miami
CSA Median Earnings Hispanic Males:
$46,545 San Francisco
$43,458 Washington
$42,320 Boston
$42,261 Seattle
$41,364 New York
$41,243 Detroit
$39,580 Philadelphia
$39,473 Chicago
$37,421 Los Angeles
$37,248 Miami
$37,228 Houston
$37,192 Dallas
$35,380 Atlanta
Made a minor adjustment...lol "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden GATE!"
CSA Median Earnings Foreign Born Males:
$71,849 San Francisco
$65,794 Seattle
$64,678 Detroit
$56,797 Boston
$56,395 Washington
$51,243 New York
$50,707 Philadelphia
$46,992 Chicago
$41,719 Atlanta
$41,336 Dallas
$41,306 Los Angeles
$40,896 Houston
$36,560 Miami
CSA Foreign Born Residents Earning $75,000+:
868,939 New York 30.0% of all foreign born workers
553,676 San Francisco 44.8%
509,989 Los Angeles 21.4%
296,591 Washington 33.9%
194,209 Chicago 24.4%
191,317 Boston 32.6%
173,927 Miami 14.8%
173,713 Houston 22.2%
151,238 Dallas 20.7%
149,568 Seattle 39.8%
99,685 Atlanta 22.5%
97,231 Philadelphia 27.6%
75,867 Detroit 38.1%
#PromisedLand
Lol per usual you conveniently use CSA metric when it comes to percentage knowing that it boosts SF and decreases DC, but ok.
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^^^ Look at the Asian Males gap when going from CSA to MSA it drops from $10,000 difference to $4,000. The Black male earnings difference is $2,300 more in SF MSA but DC has 800,000 more Black households. Ok slickster lol.
^^^ Look at the Asian Males gap when going from CSA to MSA it drops from $10,000 difference to $4,000. The Black male earnings difference is $2,300 more in SF MSA but DC has 800,000 more Black households. Ok slickster lol.
Yawns. Just so we're clear, you said: Lol per usual you conveniently use CSA metric when it comes to percentage knowing that it boosts SF and decreases DC, but ok.
And now you know this is not true. SF tops DC in all of those measure at MSA level. You can go full Trump all you like to deflect and downplay but the numbers are the numbers.
A more gracious reply would have been: I stand corrected. FYI.
Anything else you need clarification with, let me know.
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Originally Posted by 908boi
18Montclair's posts are a classic example of how one can use statistics to support any position lol.
I dont say things I cant back up with facts and data. Yall should try it.
18Montclair's posts are a classic example of how one can use statistics to support any position lol.
You know the old saying about statistics: “There are three types of lies -- lies, damn lies, and statistics.”
After a while, the only reason why we're all debating still is because we're bored. It changes nothing in real life. Hopefully we'll all get a new prism through how we look at things, but lets be real...we won't
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Yikes.
