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Old 12-02-2019, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Justice Clarence Thomas' embrace of conservative thinking comes from his own peculiar brand of black nationalism: Better to deal with the people who are honest about where they think you stand. (He also thinks that a lot of those liberal social reforms emasculated black men.)

But even after that, what you just pegged here is one reason why a sizable minority of black Americans trust white people as far as they can throw them. One side's hostile; the other, hypocritical.
*slight majority
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Old 12-02-2019, 11:49 AM
 
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Nearly every city is liberal, so I'm not sure this makes any sense. Which "conservative" cities are black people progressing in? The current cities that account for much of recent black wealth accumulation (Atlanta, DC, Baltimore, Raleigh, Austin) are pretty dang liberal.

Also, history shows us that black people have been excluded from politics, the economy, etc. in all environments (urban, rural, conservative, liberal). I'd definitely say it's a huge hypocrisy of liberal politics (pretending to care). However, I'm unsure conservative places are doing much more for blacks. Didn't Georgia just rig an election by removing mostly black voters from the registrar over an idiotic technicality?

Conservative regions and cities continue to actively disenfranchise black people. Liberal communities simply are not doing enough to protect them.
The terms liberal and democrats are not mutually exclusive. In fact, roughly half of democrats do not view themselves as liberal. I definitely would not classify Atlanta or Raleigh as liberal cities. Democratic cities yes but liberal cities hell no. Yes, both have large black population, however black people are not exactly monolithic in thinking. There are black democrats that are liberals, conservatives, and moderates. There is still a large segment of the black population that is highly religious and socially conservative.

I would coin the exact opposite of what you posted. I would say that liberal regions and cities actively disenfranchise black people and take advantage of the black vote to advance there agenda and abandon them once they get enough constituent to replace them. That’s what the whole diversity initiative of the liberal wing of the democratic party is all about. Conservative regions with democratic leaning metropolitan areas have been much kinder and accepting to black people. This is why you have this reverse migration of black people returning to the south and cities like Atlanta, Dallas, & Houston leading the way in black growth in this country because the south offers more opportunity and inclusion compared to the north and west. The south is definitely not perfect by any stretch for black people. Racism, injustice, and the disenfranchisement of black people is still prevalent throughout the south but other regions of the country are just as bad if not worse.

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Old 12-02-2019, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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As promised here is the breakdown of Hispanic growth for the larger Metro Areas. The number is how many people the population grew and the percentage represents the per capita of total growth. Im going to do the top 5 in growth for each but Ill only track those that grew over 10k in this time span:

Houston:
Mexico - 172,088
El Salvador - 46,089
Honduras - 37,905
Puerto Rico - 16,962
Colombia - 15,876

Miami/Fort Lauderdale:
Cuba: 108,195
Venezuela: 76,790
Columbia: 27,838
Nicaragua: 22,841
Honduras: 18,609

Dallas/Fort Worth:
Mexico - 168,878
El Salvador - 21,802
Honduras - 15,944
Venezuela - 11,609
Puerto Rico - 10,451

Riverside:
Mexico - 189,014
El Salvador - 13,296

New York:
Dominican Republic: 107,038
Colombia: 27,249
El Salvador: 23,985
Venezuela: 15,791
Peru: 11,794

Phoenix:
Mexico: 126,165

Orlando:
Puerto Rico: 77,251
Venezuela: 34,048
Cuba: 19,698
Domincan Republic: 15,613
Colombia: 12,049

San Antonio:
Mexico: 119,894
Puerto Rico: 10,504

Washington DC:
El Salvador: 35,669
Honduras: 25,078
Guatemala: 12,109
Puerto Rico: 11,969
Peru: 10,841

Tampa:
Cuba: 44,576
Puerto Rico: 37,707

Austin:
Mexico: 60,765

Los Angeles:
El Salvador: 45,610
Guatemala: 22,977
Mexico: 15,340

Boston:
Domincan Republic: 19,605
Puerto Rico: 15,545
Colombia: 11,380
El Salvador: 10,112

Las Vegas:
Mexico: 59,716
Cuba: 10,096

Chicago:
Mexico: 68,012

San Diego:
Mexico: 67,277

Philadelphia:
Dominican Republic: 22,655
Puerto Rico: 17,073

Atlanta:
Guatemala: 17,882
Puerto Rico: 15,792
Mexico: 14,079
El Salvador: 10,190

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Old 12-02-2019, 12:40 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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^^^ this is the Hispanic growth in those metros from 2010-2018?
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Old 12-02-2019, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I must say, though Atlanta's Hispanic growth is not huge, its unusually balanced among the different areas of Latin America. DC and Houston are also very balanced. NYC and Miami of course are.
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Old 12-02-2019, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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^^^ this is the hispanic growth in those metros from 2010-2018?
2013-2018
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Old 12-02-2019, 12:49 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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2013-2018
Ok thanks.

I notice Houston was #1 in growth from El Salvador over that time, with LA a close second and DC third.
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Old 12-02-2019, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Ok thanks.

I notice Houston was #1 in growth from El Salvador over that time, with LA a close second and DC third.
By CSA, it would be LA, Houston, and DC/Baltimore.

DC was 2nd place for Honduran growth after Houston.
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Old 12-02-2019, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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As promised here is the breakdown of Hispanic growth for the larger Metro Areas. The number is how many people the population grew and the percentage represents the per capita of total growth. Im going to do the top 5 in growth for each but Ill only track those that grew over 10k in this time span:

Houston:
Mexico - 172,088
El Salvador - 46,089
Honduras - 37,905
Puerto Rico - 16,962
Colombia - 15,876

Miami/Fort Lauderdale:
Cuba: 108,195
Venezuela: 76,790
Columbia: 27,838
Nicaragua: 22,841
Honduras: 18,609

Dallas/Fort Worth:
Mexico - 168,878
El Salvador - 21,802
Honduras - 15,944
Venezuela - 11,609
Puerto Rico - 10,451

Riverside:
Mexico - 189,014
El Salvador - 13,296

New York:
Dominican Republic: 107,038
Colombia: 27,249
El Salvador: 23,985
Venezuela: 15,791
Peru: 11,794

Phoenix:
Mexico: 126,165

Orlando:
Puerto Rico: 77,251
Venezuela: 34,048
Cuba: 19,698
Domincan Republic: 15,613
Colombia: 12,049

San Antonio:
Mexico: 119,894
Puerto Rico: 10,504

Washington DC:
El Salvador: 35,669
Honduras: 25,078
Guatemala: 12,109
Puerto Rico: 11,969
Peru: 10,841

Tampa:
Cuba: 44,576
Puerto Rico: 37,707

Austin:
Mexico: 60,765

Los Angeles:
El Salvador: 45,610
Guatemala: 22,977
Mexico: 15,340

Boston:
Domincan Republic: 19,605
Puerto Rico: 15,545
Colombia: 11,380
El Salvador: 10,112

Las Vegas:
Mexico: 59,716
Cuba: 10,096

Chicago:
Mexico: 68,012

San Diego:
Mexico: 67,277

Philadelphia:
Dominican Republic: 22,655
Puerto Rico: 17,073

Atlanta:
Guatemala: 17,882
Puerto Rico: 15,792
Mexico: 14,079
El Salvador: 10,190
Why not Denver?
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Old 12-02-2019, 02:26 PM
 
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Nashville is really starting to become a pretty diverse city.
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