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Old 12-13-2019, 05:37 PM
 
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Yeah me too. I don’t think it’s normal that a country as large as ours has 8 years of straight growth. It’ll correct itself. Now whether the correction is a 10% correction or a 40% correction is a big question. Sometimes you need a recession to reset the market.

But if you aren’t an academic and worried about how to survive as a working person, welp!
I mean when a metro like San Jose increases it's GDP per capita by 50k in 5 years(That's more than entire countries like the UK, France, Japan), clearly, there's a bubble somewhere in there. The Tech industry is overvalued right now. The correction will hit Tech the hardest. It'll be interesting to see what the GDP numbers look like in a few years.
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Old 12-13-2019, 11:10 PM
 
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It’s a gift he uses often.
You're too kind my good fellow!
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Old 12-13-2019, 11:11 PM
 
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Want to know a fun fact? SF Bay Area has a higher black population share than LA area does.
I'm actually not surprised by that given the huge population difference between the two.
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Old 12-13-2019, 11:15 PM
 
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You restated my argument in almost the exact same way I gave it. I’m glad murk understood it better coming from you I guess, but it feels deliberate.
From my perspective, you guys were talking past each other. His focus was mainly on the cities/MSAs of Richmond and Raleigh whereas you were taking the entire Triangle into consideration.

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At any rate, I already provided the city and county GDP’s for Richmond/Henrico/Chesterfield and Wake/Durham. You can mix and match as you wish though.
This is true. I think perhaps Wake and Richmond/Henrico would be a good comparison.
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Old 12-14-2019, 03:46 AM
 
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Wake- $70 billion
Richmond/Henrico- $44 billion

And we were obviously talking past each other. I was explaining why the MSA info for Raleigh isn’t comparable to other areas, murk wasn’t having it for obvious reasons.

Just for ships and giggles, the entire Greater Richmond Area (cities of Richmond, Petersburg, Colonial Heights, and Hopewell; counties of Amelia, Caroline, Clark City, Chesterfield, Dinwiddie, Goochland, Hanover, Henrico, King William, New Kent, Powhatan, Prince George, and Sussex) covers over 4,500 square miles and has a collective GDP of $75 billion.

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Old 12-14-2019, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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2018 Gross domestic product (GDP) MSA, $billions: (Top 50)

1. New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA- 1,772,319,824
2. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA- 1,047,661,346
3. Chicago-Naperville-Elgin, IL-IN-WI- 689,464,744
4. San Francisco-Oakland-Berkeley, CA- 548,613,361
5. Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV- 540,684,444
6. Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX- 512,509,778
7. Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX- 478,778,576
8. Boston-Cambridge-Newton, MA-NH- 463,570,556
9. Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD- 444,148,100
10. Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Alpharetta, GA- 397,261,292
11. Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA- 392,036,945
12. Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL- 354,740,098
13. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA- 331,020,137
14. Detroit-Warren-Dearborn, MI- 267,731,067
15. Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI- 263,690,946
16. Phoenix-Mesa-Chandler, AZ- 255,211,769
17. San Diego-Chula Vista-Carlsbad, CA- 245,138,815
18. Denver-Aurora-Lakewood, CO- 214,157,605
19. Baltimore-Columbia-Towson, MD- 205,313,937
20. Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA- 187,109,114
21. Charlotte-Concord-Gastonia, NC-SC- 169,862,912
22. St. Louis, MO-IL- 169,839,353
23. Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA- 164,419,551
24. Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL- 159,002,758
25. Pittsburgh, PA- 152,840,999
26. Austin-Round Rock-Georgetown, TX- 146,784,519
27. Sacramento-Roseville-Folsom, CA- 145,479,978
28. Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN- 141,052,659
29. Indianapolis-Carmel-Anderson, IN- 140,762,237
30. Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL- 138,947,819
31. Cleveland-Elyria, OH- 134,369,570
32. San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX- 133,633,572
33. Kansas City, MO-KS 132,703,700
34. Nashville-Davidson--Murfreesboro--Franklin, TN- 132,202,284
35. Columbus, OH- 129,328,017
36. Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise, NV- 122,423,873
37. Milwaukee-Waukesha, WI- 103,731,937
38. Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC- 100,976,295
39.Hartford-East Hartford-Middletown, CT- 99,465,315
40. Salt Lake City, UT- 94,306,889
41.Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT- 89,387,658
42. Providence-Warwick, RI-MA- 87,414,900
43.Richmond, VA- 85,792,587
44. Raleigh-Cary, NC- 83,665,937
45.Jacksonville, FL- 83,186,521
46.Oklahoma City, OK- 81,016,823
47. New Orleans-Metairie, LA- 80,287,397
48. Memphis, TN-MS-AR- 76,749,486
49. Louisville/Jefferson County, KY-IN- 72,093,890
50. Urban Honolulu, HI- 69,252,343

Looks like Charlotte and Portland are punching pretty strong.
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Old 12-14-2019, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Speaking of NorCal & SoCal...back to the topic of this thread.

2018 GDP and Population:
Southern CA $1,646,208,000.....23,917,306
Northern CA $1,351,524,000.....15,639,739
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Old 12-14-2019, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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The business leaving California arent corporate giants for the most part, they are small businesses. To be honest, if you did own a small business (that wasnt a tech start up, in the tech industry, or in the entertainment industry), why would you stay in California or set up shop there in the first place? The tax burden is much higher, the cost of operation is much higher even without the taxes, and the cost for talent is much higher but the quality of talent isnt much different. On the later, if its something like tech talent, I get that theres no place like the Bay Area but you dont have to be there to get good talent.
Absolutely true, talent is everywhere, but what sets the Bay Area apart aside is funding capabilities. Silicon Valley has it's own, in-house Wall Street, in Palo Alto and Menlo Park, run by extremely hands on, extremely tech savy investors who infused cash into everyone from Apple to Microsoft to Google to Amazon, when they were still dreams in the minds of their now iconic founders.

China is the only place in the world Ive seen that is able to compete because:
1. The Chinese govt and its endless credit card funds projects and streamlines red tape-what red tape?

2. They block our companies from dominating there like they do everywhere else.

3. They actively spy on Silicon Valley companies and start ups. This area is full of spies from China but really from all over the world---it's actually somewhat hilarious.
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Old 12-14-2019, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I mean when a metro like San Jose increases it's GDP per capita by 50k in 5 years(That's more than entire countries like the UK, France, Japan), clearly, there's a bubble somewhere in there. The Tech industry is overvalued right now. The correction will hit Tech the hardest. It'll be interesting to see what the GDP numbers look like in a few years.
San Jose is doing what San Jose does every decade, shakes the world, regroups, and then shakes the world again.
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Old 12-14-2019, 09:10 AM
 
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I mean when a metro like San Jose increases it's GDP per capita by 50k in 5 years(That's more than entire countries like the UK, France, Japan), clearly, there's a bubble somewhere in there. The Tech industry is overvalued right now. The correction will hit Tech the hardest. It'll be interesting to see what the GDP numbers look like in a few years.
It depends on what part of the tech industry you're in. Innovation Tech much like what is found in the SF / SJ Bay area hits like a freight train in terms of economic weight.
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