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View Poll Results: Next Tier Southeast cities with Most Upside - 2020s
Huntsville 26 20.97%
Birmingham 28 22.58%
Mobile 6 4.84%
Greenville 37 29.84%
Charleston 29 23.39%
Savannah 22 17.74%
Augusta 5 4.03%
Memphis 16 12.90%
Knoxville 11 8.87%
Chattanooga 26 20.97%
New Orleans 12 9.68%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 124. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-25-2019, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Shelby County, Tennessee
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Not to be Mr. Number-cruncher and all just food for thought.
Strictly in regards to economic strength, I was a bit surprised. If we went by the GDP rate of change trend between 2018-2019 according to the Annual GMP Report of U.S. Metro Economies for the United States Conference of Mayors, the lineup looks like this:

1. New Orleans
2. Memphis
3. Birmingham
4. Charleston
5. Knoxville
6. Greenville
7. Huntsville
8. Chattanooga
9. Augusta
10. Savannah
11. Mobile
I read your report and enjoyed the information

Atlanta making up 70% of Georgia's economy didn't surprise me
Savannah only made up 7% of Georgia's economy

Meanwhile i found it interesting that Memphis (19% ) and Nashville (38%) made up 57% of Tennessee's economy. Knoxville made up 12% with Chattanooga making up 7%. So these 4 cities make up 76 percent of Tennessee's economy. Clarksville only made up 1.3 percent of the economy
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Old 12-25-2019, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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Imho the GDP shows an area's real economic strength. Metro population and Urban Density stats can be a pretty good guidepost for how "big city" an area feels. I believe how a city feels is based on a lot of additional subjective and objective things though.
I'm pretty sure businesses consider the above stats and much more when deciding if an area is a viable location.

Speaking on tiers, the first 3 cities on the list I posted had a GDP almost at least twice that of the next 7 cities as well as having larger metro populations. I didn't mean to muddy the thread with stats talk but felt it was worth a mention.
The OP mentioned "upside" and I thought about economics, hence the GDP mention.
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Old 12-25-2019, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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I read your report and enjoyed the information

Atlanta making up 70% of Georgia's economy didn't surprise me
Savannah only made up 7% of Georgia's economy

Meanwhile i found it interesting that Memphis (19% ) and Nashville (38%) made up 57% of Tennessee's economy. Knoxville made up 12% with Chattanooga making up 7%. So these 4 cities make up 76 percent of Tennessee's economy. Clarksville only made up 1.3 percent of the economy
I agree! Interesting figures for sure.
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Old 12-26-2019, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Shelby County, Tennessee
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabe.../#66f67fe24898

Well speaking of Upside, of the cities the OP named. New Orleans Greenville and Memphis made this Forbes best places to travel in 2020 List
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Old 12-29-2019, 04:26 AM
 
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Why Columbus, out of curiosity?

Greenville benefits from good interstate highway connectivity via. I-85, while Colmbus only sits at the terminus of an interstate highway spur.

And at least in the case of Savannah and Charleston, they have major ports (something other mid-size cities can't compete with).
Columbus has one of the fastest growing inland ports,he Fall Line Freeway now open with and even longer planned extension and Columbus also has some strong employers like AFLAC,Ft.Benning ,W.C. Bradley,and TYSYS
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Old 12-29-2019, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Columbus, GA and Brookhaven, GA
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Columbus has one of the fastest growing inland ports,he Fall Line Freeway now open with and even longer planned extension and Columbus also has some strong employers like AFLAC,Ft.Benning ,W.C. Bradley,and TYSYS
Don’t forget Synovus, which is the largest Georgia-based bank.
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Old 12-29-2019, 08:18 AM
 
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Columbus has one of the fastest growing inland ports,he Fall Line Freeway now open with and even longer planned extension and Columbus also has some strong employers like AFLAC,Ft.Benning ,W.C. Bradley,and TYSYS
Yes, it has some strong assets, but I wouldn't say it has the most upside of all of the mid-size cities in the SE.

It lacks the infrastructure to attract much in the way of industrial development and the labor force to attract high-paying corporate jobs that aren't organically created.

You mentioned proximity to Atlanta's airport, but that's already amongst the slowest growing part of the Atlanta region (there's a good 75 miles of "nothing" from the outskirts of Metro Atlanta to Columbus).
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Old 12-29-2019, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Columbus, GA and Brookhaven, GA
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Yes, it has some strong assets, but I wouldn't say it has the most upside of all of the mid-size cities in the SE.

It lacks the infrastructure to attract much in the way of industrial development and the labor force to attract high-paying corporate jobs that aren't organically created.

You mentioned proximity to Atlanta's airport, but that's already amongst the slowest growing part of the Atlanta region (there's a good 75 miles of "nothing" from the outskirts of Metro Atlanta to Columbus).
No not really. There is little development on I-185 until you get to Williams Rd in Columbus. More like 45 miles. Newnan continues to grow south and Lagrange is growing nicely as well. It is far from what you are describing. Harris County is the holdup. However, there is a massive development planned along 185 at GA 315. Hopefully it happens in the near future.
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Old 12-29-2019, 10:02 AM
 
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No not really.
Like I said, there's virtually nothing from Exit 41 on I-85 to Williams Rd. in Columbus (unless you count that huge Love's Truck Stop in Hogansville).

And the growth that's in between isn't nowhere near exponential enough to benefit Columbus.

IMO, Chattanooga and even Macon will benefit more from proximity to Atlanta, given how extensively develop the I-75 corridor already is north and south of the city, and how much faster it's growing.
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Old 12-29-2019, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Columbus, GA and Brookhaven, GA
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Like I said, there's virtually nothing from Exit 41 on I-85 to Williams Rd. in Columbus (unless you count that huge Love's Truck Stop in Hogansville).
Which is around 45 miles or so. You seem to leave out LaGrange for some reason. Lafayette Parkway, the main artery into LaGrange, is less than a mile from the I-185 interchange. Like I said, I-185 through Harris County is where there is lack of development. That's roughly 35 miles with little commercial development. However, if The Grove project takes off on Hwy 315, there will be plenty of development popping up in that area.
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