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I feel so badly for the people of both St. Louis and Baltimore. Sure, you can live in Lafayette Square or Fells Point, respectively, and feel “insulated” from the violence, but when all is said and done it’s still incredibly disheartening that ~50% of the land area in your city is a “no man’s land”.
I feel so badly for the people of both St. Louis and Baltimore. Sure, you can live in Lafayette Square or Fells Point, respectively, and feel “insulated” from the violence, but when all is said and done it’s still incredibly disheartening that ~50% of the land area in your city is a “no man’s land”.
Yeah, if you say that the crime and homicides in your city are "confined" to certain "bad" areas, yet you still end up having the highest homicide/violent crime rates in the nation, that must mean that those "bad" areas are basically Mordor.
Also, "bad" areas don't have walls built around them. Crime can and does spill out.
St. Louis: 7
Greensboro, NC: 3 (triple homicide but the FBI would count that as 3 homicides)
Philadelphia: 3
Baltimore: 2
Chicago: 2 (a mother killed her 2 young children and then killed herself. Sad murder/suicide)
Detroit: 2
NYC: 2
Albuquerque: 1
Cleveland: 1
Columbus, GA: 1
Dallas: 1
Des Moines, IA: 1
Houston: 1
Milwaukee: 1
Minneapolis: 1
New Orleans: 1
St. Paul: 1
Toronto: 1
Tulsa: 1
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I feel so badly for the people of both St. Louis and Baltimore. Sure, you can live in Lafayette Square or Fells Point, respectively, and feel “insulated” from the violence, but when all is said and done it’s still incredibly disheartening that ~50% of the land area in your city is a “no man’s land”.
This is absolutely true and was one of the things that really bothered me about living in St. Louis. But frankly it is true of Chicago, too. I just don't get how people can truly celebrate a city where you neither visit nor talk about anything other than the 1/3 of the city that is white, wealthy, and comparably safe. It might be real nice living in your little bourgeois bubble, but don't tell me "Chicago is great" when your "Chicago" consists of a devastatingly small fraction of the real Chicago (or St. Louis) or whatever.
At least St. Louisans are honest and admit that when they tell people they love St. Louis they usually mean the St. Louis area and not the city itself (outside of a few niche areas west and south of downtown).
This is absolutely true and was one of the things that really bothered me about living in St. Louis. But frankly it is true of Chicago, too. I just don't get how people can truly celebrate a city where you neither visit nor talk about anything other than the 1/3 of the city that is white, wealthy, and comparably safe.
Thats unfortunately how good chunk of well off city residents function. By large wealth tends tends to form socio-economic bubbles (i.e the rich stay, deal & live with only the rich, while the poor stay, live and deal with the poor, etc..)... Thats not something exclusive to St. Louis, Baltimore or Chicago.
DC, NYC, SF, LA, Miami, hell throw a dart on any major city and just watch truly how similar they all are on a socio-economic lvl.
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Originally Posted by ForeignCrunch
It might be real nice living in your little bourgeois bubble, but don't tell me "Chicago is great" when your "Chicago" consists of a devastatingly small fraction of the real Chicago (or St. Louis) or whatever.
I've always felt by large the middle class and low income have a substantially more realistic understanding/less jaded view points on how their cities function on a demographic level as they are more likely to interact, explore & live in more areas of the city
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Originally Posted by ForeignCrunch
At least St. Louisans are honest and admit that when they tell people they love St. Louis they usually mean the St. Louis area and not the city itself (outside of a few niche areas west and south of downtown).
I think most people who are born and raised in "x" city fit that bill... it's the transplants who tend to not "get" a cities underpinnings or be surprised when the negatives of city life catch up with them.
Crazy to think St Louis murder totals are already nearly 10% of Atlanta's 2019 total 3 days into the year(Keep in mind Atlanta's murder rate is bad too). Absolutely mindboggling.
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