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I think similar to DC. I'm not an expert for Indianapolis or anything, but when I did the 2019 stats by census tract - percentage of population living in census tracts without a homicide for 2019, DC and Indianapolis were pretty similar although both a fair percentage less than Chicago.
Percentage of People Living in Census Tracts With 0 Homicides for 2019
Los Angeles: 79.7%
Louisville: 64.1%
Chicago: 64%
Jacksonville: 59.4% Indianapolis: 58.1% Washington DC: 56.6%
Richmond, VA: 47.2%
Detroit: 46.6%
Memphis: 46.4%
St. Louis: 45.5%
Baltimore: 36.4%
Baton Rouge, LA: 15.8%
Jackson, MS: 13.3%
Even in those cities/areas, there are still issues with concentrated poverty and disparities. Concentrated poverty increased in 2/3rds of the top 100 metros in the US I believe in the first decade of the 2000's. So, a lot of issues are really just a matter of degree versus place X is doing so much better than place Y.
I am always surprised at how even newish boomtowns and prosperous cities in the U.S. can so quickly develop down-and-out areas. It's as if in order to support the boom with low-skilled labour, they bring in or attract the underprivileged and house them in crappy conditions by design.
Not sure. I was out of the country for a few weeks recently and was very busy with work so never got a chance to do it. All I remember is getting a list of homicides with addresses/lat+long but the numbers were slightly off from the source I had. I was going to wait and see if the list would become more accurate around now.
I am always surprised at how even newish boomtowns and prosperous cities in the U.S. can so quickly develop down-and-out areas. It's as if in order to support the boom with low-skilled labour, they bring in or attract the underprivileged and house them in crappy conditions by design.
They’re cheap and attract a good number of low income/moderate income people coming from more expensive areas or areas with worse housing conditions. Boomtowns also take in a lot of people who are leaving cities with declining industries and populations. Those folks tend to not have high levels of education or beneficial social connections.
They move into cheap, quickly constructed homes in areas that lack public transit walkability or identity. Add to that they’re a bunch of individuals from all over the place who don’t particularly have a stake in the neighborhood yet/ many of whom had only lived in apartments and never owned a home and aren’t prepared for that responsibility.
So what you have is a bunch of low/moderate income strangers driving all over a faceless area from cheaply built hone to cheaply built home. The whole thing is a bit unsustainable. Add to this the fact that those newer or expanded school district quickly become over crowded and under resources nearly as soon as they’re established. ELL and low income students in a relatively random area with low pay doesn’t entice a ton of teachers and as a result it become difficult to hire qualified teachers.
The US by nature is going to always have a certain level of destituttion and repair because of how our country was built and our current economic systems. It’s just a game of kick the can really.
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Indianapolis has 24 homicides now - making it nearly even with Philadelphia in per 100K homicide rate now. DC has 19 homicides, which makes its per 100K rate slightly below both of those cities.
Chicago 56 (2/100k)
Philly 44 (3/100k)
Baltimore 41 (7/100k)
NYC 34 (0.4/100k)
LA 27 (0.7/100k)
DC 19 (2.7/100k)
St Louis 16 (5.3/100k)
Boston 5 (0.7/100k)
SF 4 (0.4/100k)
Oakland 2 (0.4/100k)
San Diego, Calgary, Vancouver, and Montreal had very similar homicide rates in 2019. Austin had a slightly lower homicide rate than Toronto in 2019, and San Jose and NYC was not far higher than that. Winnipeg, Phoenix, and Los Angeles had similar homicide rates too. Boston, Seattle, Portland, and San Francisco were all lower than Winnipeg. Saskatoon and San Antonio had nearly identical rates.
U.S. border cities, including San Diego, Chula Vista, El Paso, and Laredo all have very low homicide rates. As I said in another thread, cities with a high percentage of foreign born tend to have much lower homicide rates holding all other factors constant. Baltimore, St. Louis, Cleveland, Gary, etc have very low percentage of foreign born, meanwhile ungentrified Bridgeport, CT, Paterson, NJ etc have high percentage foreign born, plenty of run down areas, but much lower homicide rates.
There are also much lower homicide rates in the West and Southwest. Booming Boise, Idaho has a rate of less than 1 per 100,000, high unemployment/run down Stockton and Fresno, CA maintain rates of around 10 per 100k. Oakland is the only city in the American West that's consistently over 10 per 100k, and it's had 2 homicides this year.
Lastly, also need to distinguish between homicides and other crimes. Canada has a higher rate of violent crime and property crimes than the US. Car-related thefts are the same in both countries, and many of those are committed by drug users. San Francisco and Vancouver both have low homicide rates, but high car break-in rates. A car parked in higher homicide rate DC is less likely to broken into than one in SF or Vancouver.
U.S. border cities, including San Diego, Chula Vista, El Paso, and Laredo all have very low homicide rates. As I said in another thread, cities with a high percentage of foreign born tend to have much lower homicide rates holding all other factors constant. Baltimore, St. Louis, Cleveland, Gary, etc have very low percentage of foreign born, meanwhile ungentrified Bridgeport, CT, Paterson, NJ etc have high percentage foreign born, plenty of run down areas, but much lower homicide rates.
There are also much lower homicide rates in the West and Southwest. Booming Boise, Idaho has a rate of less than 1 per 100,000, high unemployment/run down Stockton and Fresno, CA maintain rates of around 10 per 100k. Oakland is the only city in the American West that's consistently over 10 per 100k, and it's had 2 homicides this year.
Lastly, also need to distinguish between homicides and other crimes. Canada has a higher rate of violent crime and property crimes than the US. Car-related thefts are the same in both countries, and many of those are committed by drug users. San Francisco and Vancouver both have low homicide rates, but high car break-in rates. A car parked in higher homicide rate DC is less likely to broken into than one in SF or Vancouver.
My best explanation is this:
Foreign born ghettos tend to have lower homicide rates than american ghettos probably because they have less control over the drug/gun traffic which tend to be concentrated in the hands of african americans and to a lesser extent Puerto Ricans, Mexicans and Dominicans. These groups tend to control illicit traffic because they're most established in US inner cities.
If you are devoid of huge concentrations of those 4 groups, homicide rates tend to drop even if other crime remains high. Homicides are more likely to be aggressively investigated. Strong gun laws help too.
In addition to the foreign born populations residency in a city or this country is more conditional and that additional scrutiny curtails serious criminal behavior. As well as the need to be able to send remittances. Add to this stronger/more coheisve family units and we begin to draw a conclusion
10 shell casings recovered in the 5th shooting 5 days in Brockton MA but only one person was hit-fatally. A 21 year old Cape Verdean man.
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