City and Metro homicides 2020 (crime, population, Atlanta, Los Angeles)

[TheseGoTo11]

Originally Posted by marothisu

Burglary per 100K in 2018
DC: 254.3 per 100K
NYC: 127.1 per 100K

Do you have robbery stats? Burglary is a lot less dangerous, but good to see DC so low.

[Chicagoland60426]

Originally Posted by KoNgFooCj

I know right. Cities like San Francisco, Seattle and Toronto remind me of like the ideal superhero comic city. Very low violent crime (at least low homicides) and an appalling amount of every other kind of crime.

Originally Posted by marothisu

Burglary per 100K in 2018
Memphis: 1302.3 per 100K
Jackson, MS: 1248.6 per 100K
Cleveland: 1210.9 per 100K
Baton Rouge, LA: 1194.9 per 100K
Albuquerque: 1138.5 per 100K
Detroit: 1108.3 per 100K
Seattle: 1075 per 100K
Bakersfield: 1043.8 per 100K
Baltimore: 998.9 per 100K
St. Louis: 970.8 per 100K
Oklahoma City: 918.9 per 100K
Indianapolis: 893.6 per 100K
Kansas City: 753.8 per 100K
Las Vegas Metro: 727.8 per 100K
Minneapolis: 721.3 per 100K
Milwaukee: 715.1 per 100K
Anchorage, AK: 708.2 per 100K
Columbus, OH: 702.6 per 100K
Houston: 695.8 per 100K
Portland: 676.1 per 100K
Dallas: 665.3 per 100K
Phoenix: 633.9 per 100K
Atlanta: 621.2 per 100K
Tucson: 606.1 per 100K
San Francisco: 598.5 per 100K
San Antonio: 592.3 per 100K
Orlando: 564.7 per 100K
Fresno: 554.5 per 100K
Sacramento: 542.6 per 100K
Nashville: 528.3 per 100K
New Orleans: 511.4 per 100K
Richmond, VA: 487.5 per 100K
Austin: 467.4 per 100K
Miami: 434.8 per 100K
San Jose: 433.4 per 100K
Chicago: 429.8 per 100K
Philadelphia: 409.4 per 100K
Los Angeles: 396.8 per 100K
Honolulu Metro: 364.2 per 100K
Newark, NJ: 294.8 per 100K
Boston: 266.7 per 100K
Tampa: 266.4 per 100K
San Diego: 261.2 per 100K
DC: 254.3 per 100K
NYC: 127.1 per 100K

We tend to just focus on violent crimes as a basis for how safe or dangerous a city is, but perhaps whether certain property crimes are high, medium or low could also shed light on the state of affairs in some of these cities. First thing regarding this list I do noticed that some of the more violent cities also have higher rates in at least one category of property crime(burglary here). Detroit in particular is not only near the top when it comes to burglaries per capita but it is the arson capital (127.1/100k) per year, and it definitely shows in its physical state. I see that Seattle is right behind with a rate that is still 1,000+. Maybe the fact that it's home to a high concentration of homeless(most are probably drug addicts or alcoholics) has something to do with it.


Incredible that New York City is all the way at the bottom of the list, even in burglaries.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by TheseGoTo11

Do you have robbery stats? Burglary is a lot less dangerous, but good to see DC so low.

Robbery per 100K. Chicago and SF have almost identical rates of robbery...

Baltimore: 836.75 per 100K

St. Louis: 473.16 per 100K
Memphis: 467.63 per 100K
Cleveland: 460.66 per 100K

Milwaukee: 382.63 per 100K
Houston: 373.61 per 100K
Chicago: 356.14 per 100K
San Francisco: 355.91 per 100K
Albuquerque: 353.24 per 100K
Indianapolis: 351.08 per 100K
Detroit: 343.97 per 100K
Kansas City: 331.97 per 100K
Philadelphia: 331.59 per 100K
Dallas: 315.81 per 100K
Nashville: 308.23 per 100K
New Orleans: 307.54 per 100K
Washington DC: 307.07 per 100K

Cincinnati: 297.07 per 100K
Minneapolis: 276.47 per 100K
Los Angeles: 256.27 per 100K
Anchorage: 245.55 per 100K
Newark, NJ: 244.1 per 100K
Pittsburgh: 230.05 per 100K
Tucson: 227.77 per 100K
Seattle: 222.01 per 100K
Atlanta: 221.53 per 100K
Orlando: 219.06 per 100K
Columbus, OH: 215.33 per 100K
Bakersfield: 210.32 per 100K
Sacramento: 207.48 per 100K
Tulsa: 205.88 per 100K

Akron: 195.76 per 100K
Charlotte: 189.1 per 100K
Phoenix: 188.25 per 100K
Miami: 175.04 per 100K
Fresno: 170.92 per 100K
Boston: 168.71 per 100K
Denver: 168.02 per 100K
Oklahoma City: 165.71 per 100K
Riverside, CA: 164.04 per 100K
Las Vegas: 163.59 per 100K
Portland: 160.67 per 100K
San Jose: 152.1 per 100K
NYC: 136.11 per 100K
San Antonio: 114.79 per 100K
Austin: 104.9 per 100K
San Diego: 100.17 per 100K

Tampa: 84.49 per 100K
Honolulu: 81.87 per 100K

[marothisu]

Aggravated Assault per 100K

Detroit: 1477.78 per 100K
Memphis: 1371.76 per 100K
St. Louis: 1165.62 per 100K
Kansas City: 1148.82 per 100K

Milwaukee: 931.64 per 100K
Albuquerque: 913.72 per 100K

Baltimore: 885.97 per 100K
Cleveland: 846.71 per 100K
Anchorage: 845.23 per 100K
Indianapolis: 826.13 per 100K

Tulsa: 739.68 per 100K
Nashville: 721.64 per 100K

New Orleans: 646.86 per 100K
Oklahoma City: 610.63 per 100K

Houston: 586.96 per 100K
Chicago: 563.12 per 100K
DC: 548.22 per 100K

Orlando: 493.58 per 100K
Philadelphia: 485.97 per 100K
Atlanta: 480.14 per 100K
Charlotte: 473.35 per 100K
Phoenix: 470.64 per 100K
Denver: 453.56 per 100K
Dallas: 431.85 per 100K
Cincinnati: 426.56 per 100K
Los Angeles: 422.19 per 100K
Sacramento: 421.86 per 100K
San Antonio: 417.52 per 100K
Miami: 417.08 per 100K
Seattle: 414.54 per 100K
Newark, NJ: 409.2 per 100K
Minneapolis: 408.16 per 100K
Tucson: 406.22 per 100K
Boston: 405.66 per 100K

Fresno: 346.36 per 100K
Las Vegas: 336.23 per 100K
NYC: 315.46 per 100K

Riverside, CA: 295.75 per 100K
San Francisco: 290.01 per 100K
Pittsburgh: 289.88 per 100K
Tampa: 289.86 per 100K
Portland: 288.93 per 100K
Bakersfield: 243.77 per 100K
San Diego: 228.4 per 100K
San Jose: 210.83 per 100K

Austin: 193.15 per 100K
Columbus, OH: 176.46 per 100K
Honolulu: 130.55 per 100K

[ssiguy]

Earlier, I was taken to task for supplying the murders for Metro Canadian areas under the notion that I was trying to make Canadians feel even more smug. In fact, the opposite was true.

I included Metros and their populations for Canadian cities because in Canadian cities, unlike American ones, the downtowns/inner cities tend to have significantly lower murder rates than the suburbs. Just including the original cities would not show the true numbers. Most American suburbs are just as safe or even safer than Canadian ones, it's the downtowns/inner cities where there huge differences lie.

[TheseGoTo11]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

Most American suburbs are just as safe or even safer than Canadian ones, it's the downtowns/inner cities where there huge differences lie.

Hard to say that, because there's a huge difference among US cities as all the stats here show. Walking around the center of Squeegeetown (aka Baltimore) is going to be a whole different experience than a stroll up Columbus Ave through the Upper West Side. America is all about diversity, and that includes highly diverse levels of safety across downtowns.

[02blackgt]

Originally Posted by SEAandATL

It should be the city with the lowest rates that should boast, in which case it's San Diego. I believe it's still at 0 currently.

It’s east coast twin sibling Tampa is only at 1.

[mjtinmemphis]

The robbery stats are also misconstrued in St. Louis. Add in the suburbs of St. Louis or just the area inside 170, we have a totally different stat. My neighborhood goes from 18k residents everyday to 150k or more depending on what is happening in the city. St. Louis is a hub city of 300k for a msa of almost 3 million. It's kind of hard to compare it to Memphis and Indianapolis type places. There is a context to everything.

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by mjtinmemphis

The robbery stats are also misconstrued in St. Louis. Add in the suburbs of St. Louis or just the area inside 170, we have a totally different stat. My neighborhood goes from 18k residents everyday to 150k or more depending on what is happening in the city. St. Louis is a hub city of 300k for a msa of almost 3 million. It's kind of hard to compare it to Memphis and Indianapolis type places. There is a context to everything.

Just 1 reason why the FBI tells people to not make crime rankings. However, it's all standardized by doing a rate for a city proper. You can say what you just said about a.pot of cities.

[mjtinmemphis]

Originally Posted by marothisu

Just 1 reason why the FBI tells people to not make crime rankings. However, it's all standardized by doing a rate for a city proper. You can say what you just said about a.pot of cities.

That is true.

I have to point out Boston and Philadelphia have small city limits with over inflated daytime population and doesn't have the stats of St. Louis but they have more wealth in the city whereas much of St. Louis wealth is just outside of the city limits.