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Old 01-12-2020, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Ne
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1. Which is why Brooklynites are moving to Philadelphia in large numbers. I think my objection to the term is that I think the phrase "a poor man's _________" implies that the place so labeled is somehow an inferior or lesser version of the place it's being compared to, and often enough, the ways in which the other place is "lesser" are trivial or superficial - one could be perfectly happy living in the "poor man's" equivalent (which I think you just said). In the case of Brooklyn and Philadelphia, a Philly rapper quoted a Brooklyn-transplant friend in a Phillymag interview as saying of his new hometown:

"It's like 80 percent of New York at 20 percent of the cost!"

I'd say that's a good bit more than sloppy seconds.

2. Omaha and Des Moines are comparable in size - in fact, I think that the city of Omaha is more populous than the city of Des Moines. The comparison that has been made upthread is more apt IMO: Omaha is a poor man's Kansas City. (Sheesh, Omaha is the home of the Kansas City Royals' Triple-A farm club.)
This thread is comical in many ways. I don’t prescribe to these silly “poor mans city” references. I’ll only say- in NO WAY, SHAPE or FORM does Omaha take a back seat to Des Moines- in ANY way. I’d anything, it’s the other way around. Omaha is the larger and more diverse city AND metro. Geez. Some people just like to make statements, pulling them from their back sides. I also read in this thread someone stated Tulsa, OK is a “poor mans” Oklahoma City. More silliness, lol.
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Old 01-12-2020, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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This thread is comical in many ways. I don’t prescribe to these silly “poor mans city” references. I’ll only say- in NO WAY, SHAPE or FORM does Omaha take a back seat to Des Moines- in ANY way. I’d anything, it’s the other way around. Omaha is the larger and more diverse city AND metro. Geez. Some people just like to make statements, pulling them from their back sides. I also read in this thread someone stated Tulsa, OK is a “poor mans” Oklahoma City. More silliness, lol.
Tulsa has historically been the more cultured of Oklahoma's two large cities, and most of the oil companies based in the state were headquartered there, not OKC. (Well, Phillips is in Bartlesville.)

But Oklahoma City is the larger of the two, it doesn't have that historical day of shame (the Greenwood "riot") in its past, and in terms of infrastructure investments, it's been on a roll with those MAPS projects - which I learned began when a major airline that was considering setting up its maintenance base there decided not to when the employees said they didn't want to live in OKC.

I'm with you on the "poor man's" stuff in general, though. Most of the cities we're talking about here aren't inferior versions of some larger city. And Omaha (where my Mom was born) is a decent city with many amenities to recommend it. Sheesh (again), if it's good enough for Warren Buffett...
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Old 01-12-2020, 05:09 PM
 
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Seattle is a poor man's Vancouver, Boston is a poor man's Montreal
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Old 01-12-2020, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Seattle is a poor man's Vancouver, Boston is a poor man's Montreal
Seattle is much richer than Vancouver.
Boston is much richer than Montreal.

Maybe.. vice versa?
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Old 01-12-2020, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
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Seattle is much richer than Vancouver.
Boston is much richer than Montreal.

Maybe.. vice versa?
They’re really not comparable. The only similarity between Montreal and Boston is urbanity. And even then... Montreal is grid-based, and Boston is Boston. Go to either city and compare the two, and you’re likely to get into a fight.
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Old 01-12-2020, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Oakland
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Seattle is a poor man's Vancouver, Boston is a poor man's Montreal
I don't think so. Vancouver and Seattle have different economies and Seattle is noticeably larger. It's not really comparable with the exception of some cultural Cascadian similarities, climate, and topography. Both are very wealthy.
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Old 01-12-2020, 11:36 PM
 
Location: West Seattle
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Milwaukee is a poor man's Chicago

Rockford is a poor man's Milwaukee

Peoria, IL is a poor man's St. Louis

Indianapolis is a poor man's Columbus (Indy may have more pro sports and perhaps more international recognition, but I think Cbus has better neighborhoods, is more educated, and is attracting more Millennials)
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Old 01-13-2020, 01:54 AM
 
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Indianapolis is a poor man's Columbus (Indy may have more pro sports and perhaps more international recognition, but I think Cbus has better neighborhoods, is more educated, and is attracting more Millennials)
This is ridiculous. The concept here involves one city offering most of the 'stuff' that another, nearly always larger, city offers but at a fraction of the cost. Indianapolis and Columbus are peers and virtual equals, arguably more so than any other pair of cities (with each being located in a different state) in the country, that offer similar amenities at a similar cost. Neither one is the bargain version of the other and the differences you mention are extremely minor in the context of this discussion and I fail to see their relevance.
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Old 01-13-2020, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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Wait, what?!
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Wait, what?! I refrained from posting in this thread but I would think the other way around.
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OMG exactly. Doesn't he know ALL the threads closed CHI vs T.O.? They got bad sometimes..... in the past. Torontonians and Canadians boasting for their largest city of nearly 60% immigrants with degrees as is Cabañas by merit points-system immigration.

They see Chicago as passed by them and NYC the only US city above them...... many posters that is. Though some were banned. Cause it got that bad.
I mean Toronto is more expensive than Chicago. Ergo, if Toronto and Chicago are comparable in terms of size, amenities, quality-of-life, built environment, etc., then Chicago would be the cheaper alternative (i.e. "poor man's") Toronto.
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:30 AM
 
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I mean Toronto is more expensive than Chicago. Ergo, if Toronto and Chicago are comparable in terms of size, amenities, quality-of-life, built environment, etc., then Chicago would be the cheaper alternative (i.e. "poor man's") Toronto.
Are you sure its not Toronto is the Poor mans NYC. One larger and one smaller seems to be how this comparison goes also. Chicago and Toronto both hugging a Great Lake throws them together in threads. But size-was one isn't greatly smaller or larger. Chicago's metro makes it larger. But still most comparisons are between much more size different cities with poorer versions.

Again, Toronto does not see itself more tied with the US Midwest cities. This because as Canada's largest and fastest growing city for decades..... it looks eastward and NYC more and more to be compared.

I get NYC is in its own tier and class. But these comparisons are mostly different tiered cities anyway with one a pooer version for this thread.
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