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between Boston, NYC, Philly, DC, Cleveland and Chicago, Boston has the highest percentage of sunshine (see Wikipedia for each city). SE New England, including Boston and especially places nearer to Cape Cod, sticks out into the Atlantic and the climate is highly influenced by ocean winds including "ocean effect snows". On the other hand, many winter storms are rain only and summer is milder. The difference in winter temps between NYC and Boston is about the same as between Boston and Chicago. Chicago has the coldest winter of this group. Chicago get about 10% less sunshine in Jan and Feb compared to Boston and Cleveland gets almost 20% less.
between Boston, NYC, Philly, DC, Cleveland and Chicago, Boston has the highest percentage of sunshine (see Wikipedia for each city). SE New England, including Boston and especially places nearer to Cape Cod, sticks out into the Atlantic and the climate is highly influenced by ocean winds including "ocean effect snows". On the other hand, many winter storms are rain only and summer is milder. The difference in winter temps between NYC and Boston is about the same as between Boston and Chicago. Chicago has the coldest winter of this group. Chicago get about 10% less sunshine in Jan and Feb compared to Boston and Cleveland gets almost 20% less.
I've never researched it thoroughly, but just off of observation and being familiar with both regions, this is pretty accurate. In the Midwest (especially the Great Lakes region, you get the lake effect, and windchill makes it feel a good deal cooler). Also, the differences in sunshine is something I've noticed as well. The Midwest seems to be more gray, although, compared to Michigan at least, Chicago seems to get more sunshine. Michigan was depressing in the winters because it literally seemed gray all the time.
I've also noticed that in terms of those huge nor'eastern blizzards, Chicago/Midwest don't tend to get as many big snow dumpings like those in an average year. There are some exceptions like 2014, but from my memory, usually this isn't the case (although I'm going off my perception, and haven't actually looked up any stats).
Climate and winter weather in Cleveland increasingly more mild
In the last two winter seasons, winters in Cleveland have been shocking mild with a relative paucity of snow and significantly higher temperatures. In the past decade, winters have been much more mild than several decades ago. Arctic Amplification resulting from climate change probably accounts for the changes. Perhaps a return of a La Nina may result in a more normal winter in the region, but it's not likely the ferocious winters of the past (see discussion in following threads) just 3-4 decades will return in at least this and the next few centuries.
The relative absence of lake effect snow and certainly the absence of snow cover as much of this year's snowfall rapidly melts, especially on paved surfaces, is more amazing as there is very little ice cover on Lake Erie. The need for snow blowers and shoveling is very, very limited.
Speaking only to S. New England vs the Midwest. Winters in the Midwest are much, MUCH colder than Southern New England.
Its shocking how much our winters have changed since the '70s. We're getting less polar vortice's swinging eastward, w/ milder air off the Maritime's.They had the 2nd most extensive ice pack of all time in Great Lakes only a few years ago.
The '70s and 80's were horrible. But New England's winters have softened significantly since about the mid '90s.
In the Midwest, winters haven't changed quite so much. Air still slams down from northern central Canada pretty much like always.
That's what's happening.
How global warming is being slowed: The oceans are warming a bit.
A bit. Not a ton. You have tropical convection, hurricanes, and winter storms to thank.
The Roaring 40's of the southern hemisphere, and to a lesser extent, in the northern hemisphere are churning. ....Still, Antarctica isn't warming much if at all--and this the proof we're not going to die.
The Roaring 40's mostly of the Southern Ocean, is experiencing significantly stormier weather as a result of the gradient. The insanely massive spinning winter lows are cooling the earth significantly over the oceans, and sending Southern Hemi surf everywhere from Indo to west Oz, from East Oz to the America's and so on, and causing Teahupoo, Tavarua, The West Coast of the America's (Mavericks), Northern Europe, and North Africa to get slammed with surf. This is very good, and shows the ocean's doing their job.
You name your kid Reef: and he scores the greatest ride of all time in the South Pacific; You can't make this crap up:
The social engineers skipped physics class--and had to change the word from Global Warming to Climate Change. The Northern and Southern jets are simply warbing more, and Climate Change is rendered as a red herring.
The northern ice caps are melting is a ruse (the warble in the northern hemi jetstream is warming the northern polar ice cap and causing the phenomenon, not Global Warming: you can take it to the bank)....
but, the great equalizer are these ocean storms that radiate heat into outer space through a process known as convection: (seawater evaporation + wind) + the First Law of Thermodynamics. More winter storms + more hurricanes. Chicken little grabs their megaphones, but the First Law of Thermo exacts final judgement.
This is what they don't want you to know. Stormier weather is neither Global Warming or Climate Change. It's just the "warble" caused by our fossil fuels, and the Oceans sloshing around -- which will continue to quell global warming--and keep the boogeyman from ruining our lives.
Some of you know about those incredible waves that smash into the Wedge in Newport Beach, CA and light up 1st Point in the Bu. But even New England is blessed with south swells that travel all the way from the Roaring 40's (9,000 miles away)--and the buoy data bears it out. https://www.surfline.com/surf-scienc...er-blog_15896/
From my perspective as a west coaster living in the south, it sounds like fighting over degrees of bad?
I guess I’d stay away from eastern coasts of the Great Lakes, I gather they get the wallop of snows.
If I had to pick a place from the OP’s list, it’s Chicago. Great town. Best pizza I have ever had, good urban core with plenty of suburbs (my personal preference) to choose from. Good transit, decent road infrastructure, lots of other food and culture to choose from. IMHO the best big city in the US, offsets any snow negs.
Speaking only to S. New England vs the Midwest. Winters in the Midwest are much, MUCH colder than Southern New England.
Its shocking how much our winters have changed since the '70s. We're getting less polar vortice's swinging eastward, w/ milder air off the Maritime's.They had the 2nd most extensive ice pack of all time in Great Lakes only a few years ago.
The '70s and 80's were horrible. But New England's winters have softened significantly since about the mid '90s. In the Midwest, winters haven't changed quite so much. Air still slams down from northern central Canada pretty much like always.
That's what's happening.
How global warming is being slowed: The oceans are warming a bit.
A bit. Not a ton. You have tropical convection, hurricanes, and winter storms to thank.
The Roaring 40's of the southern hemisphere, and to a lesser extent, in the northern hemisphere are churning. ....Still, Antarctica isn't warming much if at all--and this the proof we're not going to die.
The Roaring 40's mostly of the Southern Ocean, is experiencing significantly stormier weather as a result of the gradient. The insanely massive spinning winter lows are cooling the earth significantly over the oceans, and sending Southern Hemi surf everywhere from Indo to west Oz, from East Oz to the America's and so on, and causing Teahupoo, Tavarua, The West Coast of the America's (Mavericks), Northern Europe, and North Africa to get slammed with surf. This is very good, and shows the ocean's doing their job.
You name your kid Reef: and he scores the greatest ride of all time in the South Pacific; You can't make this crap up:
The social engineers skipped physics class--and had to change the word from Global Warming to Climate Change. The Northern and Southern jets are simply warbing more, and Climate Change is rendered as a red herring.
The northern ice caps are melting is a ruse (the warble in the northern hemi jetstream is warming the northern polar ice cap and causing the phenomenon, not Global Warming: you can take it to the bank)....
but, the great equalizer are these ocean storms that radiate heat into outer space through a process known as convection: (seawater evaporation + wind) + the First Law of Thermodynamics. More winter storms + more hurricanes. Chicken little grabs their megaphones, but the First Law of Thermo exacts final judgement.
This is what they don't want you to know. Stormier weather is neither Global Warming or Climate Change. It's just the "warble" caused by our fossil fuels, and the Oceans sloshing around -- which will continue to quell global warming--and keep the boogeyman from ruining our lives.
Some of you know about those incredible waves that smash into the Wedge in Newport Beach, CA and light up 1st Point in the Bu. But even New England is blessed with south swells that travel all the way from the Roaring 40's (9,000 miles away)--and the buoy data bears it out. https://www.surfline.com/surf-scienc...er-blog_15896/
As explained in the links in post 13, Arctic Amplification is very real and winters are becoming much more mild in the Midwest, especially the lower Midwest.
Climate change denialists will continue to obfuscate and ignore scientists, all while hurling insults at those who are facing reality. These denialists claim to know more than NOAA and NASA scientists.
<<Arctic temperatures have been rising over the last 50 years at more than twice the rate as the global average, according to the Climate Science Special Report for the fourth National Climate Assessment. And this change has led to serious decreases in sea ice, glacier ice, and snow extent.>>
Climate scientists are not "social scientists," they are physical scientists whose knowledge and expertise far exceeds that of their critics and whose warnings are predicated on empirical evidence, not "Big Lie" propaganda. Why is "climate change" now preferred to "global warming?" Because there are many serious consequences of climate change beyond global warming, most notably ocean acidification which always is ignored by climate change deniers.
<<Ocean acidification is sometimes called “climate change’s equally evil twin,” and for good reason: it's a significant and harmful consequence of excess carbon dioxide in the atmosphere that we don't see or feel because its effects are happening underwater. At least one-quarter of the carbon dioxide (CO2) released by burning coal, oil and gas doesn't stay in the air, but instead dissolves into the ocean. Since the beginning of the industrial era, the ocean has absorbed some 525 billion tons of CO2 from the atmosphere, presently around 22 million tons per day.>>
Also, as noted in post 13, the last two winters in northeastern Ohio have been extremely mild. Even colder winters of the past decade pale against what was experienced in the past, and would be unimaginable in today's climate.
For those of us who experienced the long, harsh winters of the past in northeast Ohio, claims that nothing has changed in the last half century would be laughable if the implications of continued climate change were not so serious.
Speaking only to S. New England vs the Midwest. Winters in the Midwest are much, MUCH colder than Southern New England.
This is categorically false.
Inland Southern New England - MA, CT, Southern NH- is just as cold as the majority of the Midwest. The upper Midwest- MN/WI- is more similar to New England's northern areas.
Average low in Stow, VT is 2 degrees. Average low in Duluth is 4 degrees. Minneapolis average low is 6 degrees, Concord average low is 10 degrees. Of course, higher elevation areas in New England are arguably worse than anywhere in WI/MN.
How global warming is being slowed: The oceans are warming a bit.
A bit. Not a ton. You have tropical convection, hurricanes, and winter storms to thank.
The Roaring 40's of the southern hemisphere, and to a lesser extent, in the northern hemisphere are churning. ....Still, Antarctica isn't warming much if at all--and this the proof we're not going to die.
These are among the most serious inaccuracies in your generally inaccurate post.
Here's the empirical reality:
<<The total heat content of the world’s oceans (OHC) in 2019 was the warmest in recorded human history, according to a January 13 paper by Cheng et al., Record-Setting Ocean Warmth Continued in 2019, published in Advances in Atmospheric Sciences. In the uppermost 2000 meters of the oceans, there were 228 Zetta Joules more heat in 2019 than the 1981−2010 average; 2019 had 25 Zetta Joules more OHC than 2018 (a Zetta Joule is one sextillion Joules-- ten to the 21st power).
“We found that 2019 was not only the warmest year on record, it displayed the largest single-year increase of the entire decade, a sobering reminder that human-caused heating of our planet continues unabated,” said Penn State’s Dr. Michael Mann, one of the co-authors. The gain in ocean heat between 2018 and 2019 was about 44 times as great as all the energy used by humans in one year.
More than 90% of the increasing heat from human-caused global warming accumulates in the ocean because of its large heat capacity.>>
<<The team was able to recognize that between 1979 and 1990, Antarctica shed an average of 40 gigatons (1 billion tons) of ice mass per year. From 2009 to 2017, about 252 gigatons per year were lost.
The pace of melting rose remarkably over the four-decade period. From 1979 to 2001, it was an average of 48 gigatons annually per decade. The rate jumped to 134 gigatons for 2001 to 2017, an increase of 280 percent.>>
<<A gigantic cavity - two-thirds the area of Manhattan and almost 1,000 feet (300 meters) tall - growing at the bottom of Thwaites Glacier in West Antarctica is one of several disturbing discoveries reported in a new NASA-led study of the disintegrating glacier. The findings highlight the need for detailed observations of Antarctic glaciers' undersides in calculating how fast global sea levels will rise in response to climate change.
Researchers expected to find some gaps between ice and bedrock at Thwaites' bottom where ocean water could flow in and melt the glacier from below. The size and explosive growth rate of the newfound hole, however, surprised them. It's big enough to have contained 14 billion tons of ice, and most of that ice melted over the last three years....
About the size of Florida, Thwaites Glacier is currently responsible for approximately 4 percent of global sea level rise. It holds enough ice to raise the world ocean a little over 2 feet (65 centimeters) and backstops neighboring glaciers that would raise sea levels an additional 8 feet (2.4 meters) if all the ice were lost.>>
The combination of ocean warming and ocean acidification poses a dire threat to New England's cherished lobster industry, much as the maple sugar industry is greatly imperiled in northeast Ohio, and even, increasingly, in New England.
I've never researched it thoroughly, but just off of observation and being familiar with both regions, this is pretty accurate. In the Midwest (especially the Great Lakes region, you get the lake effect, and windchill makes it feel a good deal cooler). Also, the differences in sunshine is something I've noticed as well. The Midwest seems to be more gray, although, compared to Michigan at least, Chicago seems to get more sunshine. Michigan was depressing in the winters because it literally seemed gray all the time.
I've also noticed that in terms of those huge nor'eastern blizzards, Chicago/Midwest don't tend to get as many big snow dumpings like those in an average year. There are some exceptions like 2014, but from my memory, usually this isn't the case (although I'm going off my perception, and haven't actually looked up any stats).
Exactly - Chicago gets more sunshine, but it's much more cold.
In Michigan, it's dreary from about October to March. Up North gets the most snow, with Western Michigan being second. SE Michigan tends to get the least amount of snowfall. But the Thumb area (Port Huron and north) and around Monroe County/the border counties tend to get more than Detroit.
OH tends to be a mixed bag - Toledo, Cleveland get a lot more snowfall than C'bus and Cincy.
(Toledo/Monroe, Michigan tend to be the border for where the weather pattern changes between regions if you are heading south on 75)
Erie, PA and Upstate NY (Buffalo, Syracuse) - known for snow.....lots and lots of snow. Comparable to what you'd find in Michigan's UP. My husband refuses to move to that region again....he spent a few years there as a kid and he hated the winters there!
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Climate and winter weather in Cleveland increasingly more mild
