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View Poll Results: 2.0 Rock n Roll Hall of Fame: If City Selection Were Held in 2020
Cleveland 33 37.93%
New York City 2 2.30%
Washington, DC 1 1.15%
Philadelphia 3 3.45%
Chicago 1 1.15%
Detroit 4 4.60%
LA 8 9.20%
Minneapolis 1 1.15%
Atlanta 3 3.45%
Nashville 3 3.45%
Memphis 16 18.39%
New Orleans 2 2.30%
Seattle 8 9.20%
Other City (name it) 2 2.30%
Voters: 87. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-11-2020, 12:43 PM
 
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Actually, it was. It's irrelevant where the bands were from. What matters is the concept of R&R was developed with the prodding of Alan Freed (and Cleveland culture) embracing African American rhythm & blues allowing white groups to develop the musical art from. Again, place of birth is irrelevant.

... as for the person who coined Rock and Roll from Billboard, name him or her.
The concept of R&R already existed before Freed started playing the records Sam Phillips recorded in Memphis and provided him. And of course place of birth is relevant. Otherwise stop getting mad at NC for their "First in Flight" license plates since it doesn't matter that Ohio is the birthplace of aviation.

 
Old 03-11-2020, 01:12 PM
 
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Actually, it was. It's irrelevant where the bands were from. What matters is the concept of R&R was developed with the prodding of Alan Freed (and Cleveland culture) embracing African American rhythm & blues allowing white groups to develop the musical art from. Again, place of birth is irrelevant.

... as for the person who coined Rock and Roll from Billboard, name him or her.
I've studied music history for a number of years. You're not going to convince me.

It was Maurie Orodenker (journalist from Billboard) who started using the term Rock 'n' Roll. Freed marketed it. I've read this a number of times, but the one book that stands out is, "Before Elvis: The Prehistory of Rock 'n' Roll"
 
Old 03-11-2020, 02:03 PM
 
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That sounds kind of condescending.
That wasn't my intention.
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It's like saying that Cleveland was given the Hall of Fame because of charity.
I think you read way too far into what I said.
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I know all you hear about Cleveland nationally is the negative, yes Cleveland has its issues but there are definitely some positive things in Cleveland that's not talked about by the national media.
I agree 100%. Cleveland is unnecessarily bashed all the time. I love Cleveland, its one of my favorite American cities.
 
Old 03-11-2020, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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That wasn't my intention. I think you read way too far into what I said. I agree 100%. Cleveland is unnecessarily bashed all the time. I love Cleveland, its one of my favorite American cities.
My apologies. It seems like Cleveland is America's whipping boy especially in pop culture.

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Old 03-11-2020, 02:48 PM
 
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My apologies.
No worries, we all do it.
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It seems like Cleveland is America's whipping boy especially in pop culture.
Yep, right along with Detroit and St Louis.

Anyways, Cheers!
 
Old 03-11-2020, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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It would be more successful in Memphis.
 
Old 03-11-2020, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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It would be more successful in Memphis.
Elaborate.
 
Old 03-11-2020, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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Elaborate.
More well known, stronger musical history and culture, better more central location.
 
Old 03-11-2020, 04:06 PM
 
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Elaborate.
Well Graceland gets upwards of 700,000 annual visitors. Looks like the R&R HOF gets about 500,000 annual visitors. Throw in Sun Studios’ 200,000 (or don’t), and it seems Memphis is drawing the music devotees organically in ways perhaps Cleveland couldn’t.

I mean Cleveland is a fine place as almost any I suppose. But this feels like it should be Memphis.
 
Old 03-11-2020, 04:16 PM
 
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On the other hand, I’m kinda convinced Cleveland should have like a DJ HOF museum or something.
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