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The first thing i said was "this is urban" it's just a different more sun belty urbanism-thats more my point. The urban form breaks very quickly after that. I'm extensively familiar with that area.
Nice try with your cherry-picking genius..... that is on the far, far south of greater Chicago near the Indiana border. Nothing that anyone (other than you) would consider an "inner ring suburb!"
That would be like me calling this an "inner ring" suburb of DC.
I think we're talking about two different types of "urban" typologies.
A suburb like Bethesda or Rosslyn or Silver Spring absolutely is urban, and much more urban than suburb in the Boston area (I'm counting Cambridge as part of the central city for all intents and purposes) as far as high-rise density and transit-oriented development. Anyone who argues otherwise really isn't acknowledging just how developed the DC area is outside of low-rise Washington, DC proper. DC basically just owns suburban "New Age" urbanism like no other city I've seen.
Where suburbs like Brookline or Somerville excel is old school granular, human-scaled density. The triple-decker or garden apartment-type neighborhoods come to mind. That's what you'll very rarely find in any area of suburban DC, because the high-rise district in, say, Bethesda quickly tapers off into mansion-like single-family detached housing.
No one's wrong for calling Bethesda or Brookline urban, or even that either is more urban than the other, but they're likely using two different scales.
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The first thing i said was "this is urban" it's just a different more sun belty urbanism-thats more my point. The urban form breaks very quickly after that. I'm extensively familiar with that area.
You're either not that familiar, or you're not familiar with true "Sunbelty urbanism".
You guys are confusing new age urbanity and new development on walkable streets with bike lanes, to any urban strip in the Sunbelt with new buildings on it. That shot in Bethesda is directly above heavy rail transit Metro station, with Purple Line light rail connection being added as we speak. There's nothing in the Sunbelt "Suburbs" that can compare to Downtown Bethesda period. If you want to take it over to DT Silver Spring there's MARC commuter rail at it's downtown station.
Nice try with your cherry-picking genius..... that is on the far, far south of greater Chicago near the Indiana border. Nothing that anyone (other than you) would consider an "inner ring suburb!"
That would be like me calling this an "inner ring" suburb of DC.
You guys are confusing new age urbanity and new development on walkable streets with bike lanes, to any urban strip in the Sunbelt with new buildings on it. That shot in Bethesda is directly above heavy rail transit Metro station, with Purple Line light rail connection being added as we speak. There's nothing in the Sunbelt "Suburbs" that can compare to Downtown Bethesda period. If you want to take it over to DT Silver Spring there's MARC commuter rail at it's downtown station.
He can't show you anything in the Boston area that is as urban as Bethesda or Rossyln.
You guys are confusing new age urbanity and new development on walkable streets with bike lanes, to any urban strip in the Sunbelt with new buildings on it. That shot in Bethesda is directly above heavy rail transit Metro station, with Purple Line light rail connection being added as we speak. There's nothing in the Sunbelt "Suburbs" that can compare to Downtown Bethesda period. If you want to take it over to DT Silver Spring there's MARC commuter rail at it's downtown station.
I've never heard anyone call or refer to Downtown Silver Spring or Bethesda as sunbelt urbanism. The both have heavy rail subway stations, office space, bike lanes, sidewalks, outdoor cafes, etc.....
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