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Both cities are 3rd tier in their respective country and seem similar to me.
However Winnipeg is more important to Canada than St. Louis is to the US in my opinion.
I would say that Winnipeg has a better downtown than St. Louis simply because of the fact that Canadians didn't give up on their inner cities like many American cities did. With that said I don't think Winnipeg is really all that comparable to St. Louis demographically or culturally. Aesthetically, it also seems much more like Denver or Minneapolis. The St. Louis metro area is 4x the size of Winnipeg, so from a metropolitan perspective it really starts to pull away from Winnipeg in terms of scale and cultural offerings. To put it in perspective, St. Louis would be the third largest urban area if it were moved to Canada. Winnipeg wouldn't even be in the top 50 metropolitan areas in Canada.
Yeah this seems like a super weird comparison, and I would not put Winnipeg in the same tier as St. Louis. The Winnipeg metro area has only 821,000 people-- roughly the same size as Columbia, SC. St. Louis ranks #20 in the USA with nearly 3 million. I don't see these two cities as parallels.
Yeah this seems like a super weird comparison, and I would not put Winnipeg in the same tier as St. Louis. The Winnipeg metro area has only 821,000 people-- roughly the same size as Columbia, SC. St. Louis ranks #20 in the USA with nearly 3 million. I don't see these two cities as parallels.
Winnipeg has a comparable downtown however with more high rises over 50m and with new construction and attractions in the downtown area.
They look similar to my eyes, with both being river cities with plenty of earlier 1900 architecture.
P.S. Canada and the US measure Metropolitan areas different especial regarding the rules of merging census agglomerations together. St. Louis would not be over 3 million if measured by statscan.
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That's cool, and speaks volumes about quality of their bus system.
However, if we're talking downtowns and one has rail and one doesn't, I'm going for the one that does.
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Winnipeg has great architecture as well and it's skyline is growing with at a good rate plus the recent addition of the Canadian museum of Human rights.
Despite what a lot of people say, I actually like the Canadian Museum of Human Rights. Very innovative design and eye-catching.
However, the Gateway Arch is truly iconic and legendary. I think you could call it a cultural reset in architecture.
One thing about Winnipeg (even though I generally hate "Canadian city X is equivalent to US city Y") is that it was generally seen as Canada's Chicago (as the big city in the country's mid-section) at one point in its history.
It was actually the third largest in Canada for a while, and the largest in the West.
This historic status and ambitions are reflected in some of the architecture of the city, especially in the Exchange District which is definitely "legacy big city" in feel.
Winnipeg has a comparable downtown however with more high rises over 50m and with new construction and attractions in the downtown area.
They look similar to my eyes, with both being river cities with plenty of earlier 1900 architecture.
P.S. Canada and the US measure Metropolitan areas different especial regarding the rules of merging census agglomerations together. St. Louis would not be over 3 million if measured by statscan.
I don’t think they are really similar in the least bit, even if statcan measured differently, St Louis would still have more than double the population. I do agree that downtown Winnipeg is comparable, however, St Louis still probably has a larger overall core, just because of the size difference. Also, St Louis architecturally and form is far different from Winnipeg. Sure both have plenty of early 1900s buildings, but St Louis is going to have a lot more 1800s architecture. Also, a good portion of St. Louis is 2nd empire brick, something I’m not sure Winnipeg has ANY of.
I will say, that just due to the overall livability gap due to the massive amounts of decay and crime in St. Louis, Winnipeg is the better city on that level, however the comparison is still a bit odd. I’d say something like Milwaukee and Winnipeg would be a more just-comparasion.
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