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I think the answer depends on whether we are talking city limits or the whole metro area. I assume you mean MSA since suburbs is on your list. If thats the case, I say NYC/Tri State, then Boston, and then Philly. Philly is #1 if you mean MSA and if cost is your biggest concern. Plenty of areas in Philly and South Jersey to raise a Black family. If safety is your number 1 concern, then Boston and NYC's suburbs should be considered.
I'm a NJ native so I'm biased but I would live in parts of South Ward Newark, North Ward, and parts of the West Ward. Newark's neighbors are much better options: South Orange, Maplewood, West Orange Bloomfield, Hillside, Union, Montclair, further out in Linden and Rahway are decent options as well.
To add, Rahway train station has service on both the Northeast Corridor and North Jersey Coast lines so you have access to NYC, Newark, Trenton, New Brunswick, Metropark (AMTRAK), and the Jersey shore.
To add, Rahway train station has service on both the Northeast Corridor and North Jersey Coast lines so you have access to NYC, Newark, Trenton, New Brunswick, Metropark (AMTRAK), and the Jersey shore.
So, Rahway allows for commuting flexibility because of this, I assume. Do you know of any other train stations nearby that offer that amount of service?
So, Rahway allows for commuting flexibility because of this, I assume. Do you know of any other train stations nearby that offer that amount of service?
Linden and North Elizabeth also on both the Northeast Corridor and NJ coast lines
In terms of another Boston area community, this city has a black median household income of $68,923(2019 5 year information): https://www.medfordma.org/
Buffalo 90
Pittsburgh PA 91
Rochester 95
Syracuse 99
I know you know better than to believe this, Lol
Here's what the say for #3
"The Black population in Provo is only 1%, so while the metro comes out on top in many metrics, a small percentage of the Black population is experiencing the area’s prosperity."
"The Black population in Provo is only 1%, so while the metro comes out on top in many metrics, a small percentage of the Black population is experiencing the area’s prosperity."
I definitely belive this. It lines up with how I voted.
You running to Provo doesn't discount the list bruh. Poughkeepsie is always one of the top metros on these lsits, as is Worcester as is Boston. Charlotte is right behind Boston which si consistent with some other lsits Ive seen.
For all the reasons I said at the beginning- there's no way Philly was going to be ahead of New York let alone Boston on any objective measure. If you grew up in the Boston area and them move to Philly you would know what I'm saying. The material suffering by a large % of Black Philly is staggering
Realistically, I don't see Philly as ahead of New Haven either.
I definitely belive this. It lines up with how I voted.
You running to Provo doesn't discount the list bruh. Poughkeepsie is always one of the top metros on these lsits, as is Worcester as is Boston. Charlotte is right behind Boston which si consistent with some other lsits Ive seen.
For all the reasons I said at the beginning- there's no way Philly was going to be ahead of New York let alone Boston on any objective measure. If you grew up in the Boston area and them move to Philly you would know what I'm saying. The material suffering by a large % of Black Philly is staggering
Realistically, I don't see Philly as ahead of New Haven either.
In a previous thread, someone mentioned that the study did not take into account the cost of living when evaluating income. It was pointed out that $100k can go further in Philadelphia than in high-cost areas such as NYC, NNJ, or Boston.
Honestly, this confirms what I believed from the beginning: Philly is the ideal option for middle-class black families who earn an average of $100k annually, which was coincidentally the amount used in that sturdy.
But to use that as Gospel is unfair and the comparisons are biased because the definition of "middle class" varies by location and the black population is not the same everywhere.
NYC and Boston are more appropriate for lower/working-class families since the quality of life in less affluent Boston neighborhoods, like Dorchester, is significantly better than that of Philadelphia.
When considering the Metro, I find it hard as hell to believe that Philly deserves that low of a ranking. Unless the less desirable areas such as Camden, Bristol, Norristown, Chester, and Darby (not to be confused with Upper Darby, which is light years ahead of the borough and TWP) are being taken into account and weighed disproportionately to the premier black suburbs, which there are many of.
In a previous thread, someone mentioned that the study did not take into account the cost of living when evaluating income. It was pointed out that $100k can go further in Philadelphia than in high-cost areas such as NYC, NNJ, or Boston.
Honestly, this confirms what I believed from the beginning: Philly is the ideal option for middle-class black families who earn an average of $100k annually, which was coincidentally the amount used in that sturdy.
But to use that as Gospel is unfair and the comparisons are biased because the definition of "middle class" varies by location and the black population is not the same everywhere.
NYC and Boston are more appropriate for lower/working-class families since the quality of life in less affluent Boston neighborhoods, like Dorchester, is significantly better than that of Philadelphia.
When considering the Metro, I find it hard as hell to believe that Philly deserves that low of a ranking. Unless the less desirable areas such as Camden, Bristol, Norristown, Chester, and Darby (not to be confused with Upper Darby, which is light years ahead of the borough and TWP) are being taken into account and weighed disproportionately to the premier black suburbs, which there are many of.
Mhm, I've been consistent in saying I think Philly is a great place for younger black singles, and culturally it's more accessible for the majority of Black Americans than NYC and Boston, in terms of ease of access to a home.
But it is 47 based on the stats criteria not surprising. I think Philly has a large black sor tof lower class that drags down its number but the raw number is so large and affordability so strong you have a very large segment of middle-class blacks in NJ in particular, but also some of Philly's suburbs. I just don't find most PA-side Philly suburbs to be as nearly diverse or interesting as what you see in NYC (and DC). Which is something Boston suffers from as well.
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