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View Poll Results: Which NE City would work best for middle class black Family?
New York City 49 14.37%
Philadelphia 176 51.61%
Boston 36 10.56%
Providence 10 2.93%
Harrisburg 11 3.23%
Newark 21 6.16%
Wilmington 20 5.87%
Jersey City 18 5.28%
Voters: 341. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-09-2021, 07:33 AM
 
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A few comments in response.

First, thank you for introducing me to the state Education Department's "FutureReadyPA" website. It displays relevant data on school performance in a clear and understandable fashion, and you can then drill down to get a breakdown by racial/ethnic/socioeconomic/immigrant status.

Second, I found the notably lower percentage of Blacks enrolled in academically rigorous courses at Central a little disturbing. This seems to me to play into the rather common practice of placing Black students in courses less challenging than they can handle out of some belief that they are not intellectually up to the task. The percentage of Black students enrolled in such courses at Masterman is too small for the Commonwealth to report it, but there is an Instagram account called "Black at Masterman" that is a safe space for Black students there to report racist behavior and assumptions on the part of the faculty and other non-Black students there.

Third, you might note that 0.9 percent of Central students are enrolled in college courses. This brings up an unusual distinction for the school: Central High School is AFAIK the only public high school in the country that has the authority to confer bachelor's degrees on graduates. To get a baccalaureate degree from Central, you essentially have to take collegiate-level courses on top of your high-school ones for the last two years that you are there.
Yes, I again was surprised by Central's percentage. I thought it was going to be a bit higher than that.

As for Masterman, that is a shame, as it looks like these incidents have been going on for decades and still occur.
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Old 09-09-2021, 07:38 AM
 
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Actual homes of black politicians in Roxbury per this article. https://www.dotnews.com/2021/d7-cand...es-janey-grade

Ethnicities are: Cape Verdean, Black Anglo-Honduran, and 3 Black Americans (one from South Carolina). All women.


https://www.google.com/maps/place/10...!4d-71.0882876

https://www.google.com/maps/place/85+Moreland+St

https://www.google.com/maps/place/40...!4d-71.0782154

https://www.google.com/maps/place/55...!4d-71.0953184


More of the black men seem to participate further south in the city, in District 4. 5 men and 2 women are running in that district. Ethnicities are Cape Verdean, 3 Black Americans (one from Brooklyn), Jamaican (from New Rochelle), Somalian, Jamaican/Bajan. Leon Rivera is a Dominican running for the seat as well.

https://www.dotnews.com/2021/tompkin...rict-4-council

https://www.dotnews.com/2021/distric...es-state-cases


Of the 14 black candidates running for seats in the 2 predominately black ward seats. 6 are black American, 3 are Cape Verdean, 1 is Dominican, 1 is Somalian, 1 has Bajan ancestry, 2 have Jamaican ancestry. Both seats are being vacated by Black Americans (running for mayor) and were held by Black Americans before them. The other plurality black ward is held by a Puerto Rican man in Hyde Park.

Of the 11 black candidates running for city councilor at large 5 are African American (one is half-Irish), 2 are Cape Verdean, 2 are Haitian, 1 is Somalian, 1 is Dominican, 1 is Black Anglo-Honduran.

Of the 3 running for mayor, 2 are African American one is Cape Verdean

Overall notable Black candidates this year: 11 city council at-large, 7 in districts 4, 5 in district 7, 2 in district 6, 3 for mayor.

I added 5 more of the fringe candidates... 33 total black candidates running for mayor or city council of which 14 are African American, 7 are Cape Verdean, 4 are Dominican, 2 are Somalian, 2 are Black Honduran, 2 are Jamaican, 2 are Haitian, 1 is Bajan, 1 is Nigerian. (some overlap between Jamaican and Bajan)
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Old 09-09-2021, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Actual homes of black politicians in Roxbury per this article. https://www.dotnews.com/2021/d7-cand...es-janey-grade

Ethnicities are: Cape Verdean, Black Anglo-Honduran, and 3 Black Americans (one from South Carolina). All women.


https://www.google.com/maps/place/10...!4d-71.0882876

https://www.google.com/maps/place/85+Moreland+St

https://www.google.com/maps/place/40...!4d-71.0782154

https://www.google.com/maps/place/55...!4d-71.0953184


More of the black men seem to participate further south in the city, in District 4. 5 men and 2 women are running in that district. Ethnicities are Cape Verdean, 3 Black Americans (one from Brooklyn), Jamaican (from New Rochelle), Somalian, Jamaican/Bajan. Leon Rivera is a Dominican running for the seat as well.

https://www.dotnews.com/2021/tompkin...rict-4-council

https://www.dotnews.com/2021/distric...es-state-cases


Of the 14 black candidates running for seats in the 2 predominately black ward seats. 6 are black American, 3 are Cape Verdean, 1 is Dominican, 1 is Somalian, 1 has Bajan ancestry, 2 have Jamaican ancestry. Both seats are being vacated by Black Americans (running for mayor) and were held by Black Americans before them. The other plurality black ward is held by a Puerto Rican man in Hyde Park.

Of the 11 black candidates running for city councilor at large 5 are African American (one is half-Irish), 2 are Cape Verdean, 2 are Haitian, 1 is Somalian, 1 is Dominican, 1 is Black Anglo-Honduran.

Of the 3 running for mayor, 2 are African American one is Cape Verdean

Overall notable Black candidates this year: 11 city council at-large, 7 in districts 4, 5 in district 7, 2 in district 6, 3 for mayor.

I added 5 more of the fringe candidates... 33 total black candidates running for mayor or city council of which 14 are African American, 7 are Cape Verdean, 4 are Dominican, 2 are Somalian, 2 are Black Honduran, 2 are Jamaican, 2 are Haitian, 1 is Bajan, 1 is Nigerian. (some overlap between Jamaican and Bajan)
error, actual home

https://www.google.com/maps/place/85...!4d-71.0782154

And to be fair many of the people I'm assuming are Black Americans could possibly have family from Grenada, USVI Montserrat, St Kitts, Nevis, Antigua, Dominica, Trinidad etc. It's very likely that at least 1 or 2 do. Our Mayor-who I put as African American- has a great grandmother from Guyana. The vast majority of her paternal lineage are African Americans who escaped to Nova Scotia before coming to Boston in the late 1800s.
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Old 09-09-2021, 11:40 AM
 
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Some more from NY...

Woodlands Middle/High(Greenburgh SD based in Hartsdale in Westchester County): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000035499
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000035499

Alexander Hamilton High(Elmsford in Westchester County): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000035477
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000035477

Denzel Washington School of the Arts(Mount Vernon): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000060408
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000060408

Freeport High: https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000049586
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000049586

West Hempstead High: https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000049297
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000049297

Amityville High: https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000037769
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000037769

Walter G. O'Connell High(Copiague): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000037796
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000037796

Nyack High(in Rockland County): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000039191
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000039191

Manhattan Center High of Science and Math(East Harlem): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000046781
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000046781

Central Park East High(Manhattan): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000046813
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000046813

Park East High(Manhattan): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000046822
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000046822

Young Women's Leadership(Manhattan): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000046730
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000046730

Gorton High(Yonkers): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000034750
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000034750

Palisade Prep(Yonkers): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000062316
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000062316

Riverside High(Yonkers): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000034740
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000034740

Roosevelt High-Early College(Yonkers): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000034733
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000034733

Maybe more later...
Bronx Center for Science & Math: https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000059106
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000059106

Bronx High for Medical Science: https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000056069
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000056069

Bronx School for Law, Government and Justice: https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000045609
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000045609

Young Women's Leadership School(Bronx): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000075027
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000075027

Mott Hall Bronx High: https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000059091
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000059091

University Heights Secondary(Bronx): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000045661
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000045661

Alfred E. Smith Career-Tech(Bronx): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000045600
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000045600

City Polytechnic High(Brooklyn): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000065480
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000065480

George Westinghouse Career/Tech High(Brooklyn): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000043475
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000043475

Benjamin Banneker Academy(Brooklyn): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000045542
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000045542

Bedford Academy(Brooklyn): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000057162
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000057162

Science Skills Center High(Brooklyn): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000043506
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000043506

Queens High School of Teaching: https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000057166
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000057166

Martin Van Buren High(Queens): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000042135
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000042135

Business Technology Early College High(Queens): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000083440
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000083440

August Martin High(Queens): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000042129
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000042129

High School of Law Enforcement & Public Safety(Queens): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000057168
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000057168

York Early College Academy(Queens): https://data.nysed.gov/gradrate.php?...d=800000059621
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000059621

I'll stop there, but with maybe more later...
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Old 09-09-2021, 11:55 AM
 
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error, actual home

https://www.google.com/maps/place/85...!4d-71.0782154

And to be fair many of the people I'm assuming are Black Americans could possibly have family from Grenada, USVI Montserrat, St Kitts, Nevis, Antigua, Dominica, Trinidad etc. It's very likely that at least 1 or 2 do. Our Mayor-who I put as African American- has a great grandmother from Guyana. The vast majority of her paternal lineage are African Americans who escaped to Nova Scotia before coming to Boston in the late 1800s.
There has been a connection that goes back between African Americans that went to the Canadian Maritimes, including Prince Edward island and New Brunswick, that came back to the US to Boston and other parts of New England/the Northeast.

Some examples of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Langford

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dixon_(boxer)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George...xer,_born_1853)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_O%27Ree
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Old 09-09-2021, 12:08 PM
 
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There has been a connection that goes back between African Americans that went to the Canadian Maritimes, including Prince Edward island and New Brunswick, that came back to the US to Boston and other parts of New England/the Northeast.

Some examples of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Langford

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dixon_(boxer)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George...xer,_born_1853)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_O%27Ree
Yep, the Janey's would have been coming down at the exact same time/era as Dixon, Godfrey and Langford.


Another old-time black Boston boxer, albeit born in Boston
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Saddler
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Old 09-09-2021, 01:28 PM
 
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Yep, the Janey's would have been coming down at the exact same time/era as Dixon, Godfrey and Langford.


Another old-time black Boston boxer, albeit born in Boston
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Saddler
I think Saddler is of Bajan descent, as Boston does have a long time Bajan community as well. I only mention this, as he was the uncle of this DJ: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandmaster_Flash

On a similar, but side note, for the Boxing heads out there, the International Boxing Hall of Fame is actually in Canastota NY about 25 minutes east of Syracuse.

As for Janey, this article covers her genealogy: https://vitabrevis.americanancestors...ors-of-boston/ So, her family that left Nova Scotia came from Halifax and Preston, with the latter being a predominantly black community today: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston,_Nova_Scotia
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Old 09-09-2021, 01:40 PM
 
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I think Saddler is of Bajan descent, as Boston does have a long time Bajan community as well. I only mention this, as he was the uncle of this DJ: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandmaster_Flash

On a similar, but side note, for the Boxing heads out there, the International Boxing Hall of Fame is actually in Canastota NY about 25 minutes east of Syracuse.

As for Janey, this article covers her genealogy: https://vitabrevis.americanancestors...ors-of-boston/ So, her family that left Nova Scotia came from Halifax and Preston, with the latter being a predominantly black community today: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston,_Nova_Scotia
"Daniel’s father, Daniel H. Janey (ca. 1853-1911), was born in Halifax, Nova Scotia. He emigrated to Massachusetts in 1887, although his elder brother Benjamin H. Janey (ca. 1834-1908) was in Boston by 1870, when he was living with his uncle James F. Johnston (1832-1877), who had settled in Boston by the time of his 1856 marriage. Thus Kim Janey has had family in the city of Boston for six generations.

Daniel and Benjamin Janey’s parents – Esau and Lottie (Johnston) Janey [great-great-great grandparents of the future acting mayor] – never went to Massachusetts and remained in Nova Scotia. Lottie was born in Nova Scotia and her parents Daniel and Hannah were both born in Virginia. Esau Janey is identified by the 1871 census in Preston, Nova Scotia, as also being born in the United States (exactly where I have not yet determined), aged 66 and widowed. I also found Esau Janey in earlier almanacs of Halifax in 1851, 1852, and 1853, where he is involved in both the African Union Society (President 1851-52 and on the governing committee in 1853), and the African Abolition Society (serving on a committee in 1853):"

That's deep What's crazy is her daughter and granddaughter both live in the City of Boston. Thus they are officially 8 generations in Boston, 48 square miles.

Out of 5 Candidates including two other black candidates-Kim Janey has 46% of likely black voters at the moment. Her problem is she only has 11% of the white vote.. half that of Andrea Campbell(21%) or Annissa Essaibi George(22%) and less than 30% that of Michelle Wu (39%).
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Old 09-09-2021, 01:54 PM
 
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There has been a connection that goes back between African Americans that went to the Canadian Maritimes, including Prince Edward island and New Brunswick, that came back to the US to Boston and other parts of New England/the Northeast.

Some examples of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Langford

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dixon_(boxer)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George...xer,_born_1853)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_O%27Ree
Very true. Also many folks who escaped to Canada through the Underground Railroad returned to the US after the Civil War.
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Old 09-09-2021, 02:46 PM
 
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Also not surprising she's descended from family in VA and NC-just like me.
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