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View Poll Results: Which NE City would work best for middle class black Family?
New York City 49 14.41%
Philadelphia 176 51.76%
Boston 35 10.29%
Providence 10 2.94%
Harrisburg 11 3.24%
Newark 21 6.18%
Wilmington 20 5.88%
Jersey City 18 5.29%
Voters: 340. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-16-2021, 07:30 AM
 
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Emigrated from Northern Ireland in the mid-'90s. In a committed lesbian relationship. Fought the good fight to save some neighborhood institutions.

I think I like her.



Yeah, that is weird, sitting out the election, then making an endorsement the night before Election Day.

I remember Allston already being heavily Hispanic when I lived there. Guess Blacks have added to the mix. Asians too?

But I'll wager the student ghetto near BU remains in place too.
Allston is probably a little less black than 1990 but more than 1970. It's only 5% black (non Hispanic, non mixed) and it grew ever so slightly since 2010.

It's heavily Asian, mostly low income Chinese families as well as Hispanic of all ethnicities. The vast majority of youth in Allston are minorities (70%) the neighborhoods is undergoing redevelipment as you could imagine but the student ghetto is still in place, I can confirm that. It's not the hot neighborhood yet and is probably one of the cheapest in Boston if not the cheapest.

It's 25.1% asian, 12.8% latino, 6% mixed race or other, 5.1% black. Allston is one neighborhood where I know someone of every race who lives there..

You can see Boston census info here: http://www.bostonplans.org/getattach...4-0c51c325b216

I have no idea what Mel was doing but yeah a lot of people are upset right now but our people just didn't get out and vote to be honest. Our turnout was abysmal. I think a lot of black bostonians really just don't care as much as the media did about the “historic diverse field” oddly Mel sort of embodied that with the late endorsement. John Barros also took enough votes (3500) that had they done to Janey or Campbell-would have put them in the final.
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Old 09-16-2021, 07:39 AM
 
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‘When you uplift Black women... you uplift most of society:’ New large-scale mural in Providence celebrates Afrofuturism

City of Providence recruited this Charlotte NC artist as part of a diverse arts city program. Just happened to see this just now.
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Old 09-16-2021, 10:36 AM
 
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‘When you uplift Black women... you uplift most of society:’ New large-scale mural in Providence celebrates Afrofuturism

City of Providence recruited this Charlotte NC artist as part of a diverse arts city program. Just happened to see this just now.
I couldn't read the article, but speaking of Afrofuturism and Providence, some credit this man that was born there and raised in Syracuse(just south of Downtown) as the first author related to that genre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Schuyler

The book he wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_No_More
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/0...fore-his-time/
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Old 09-16-2021, 11:16 AM
 
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I couldn't read the article, but speaking of Afrofuturism and Providence, some credit this man that was born there and raised in Syracuse(just south of Downtown) as the first author related to that genre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Schuyler

The book he wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_No_More
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/0...fore-his-time/
Dude how do you know these things?


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Boston Globe is a soft firewall jsuk. Clear your history and you're good.
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Old 09-16-2021, 12:11 PM
 
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Dude how do you know these things?


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Boston Globe is a soft firewall jsuk. Clear your history and you're good.
An older sister while attending college at Howard wrote a paper about him. She didn't know about him until she got there and that is how I found out about him. Until an article in the newspaper locally a few years ago, you would never see or hear anything about him.
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Old 09-16-2021, 02:08 PM
 
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Also, Newport(1st Ward): https://www.cityofnewport.com/city-h...councilor-bios

For Harrisburg: https://www.wgal.com/article/harrisb...mary/36472964#

https://harrisburgpa.gov/city-council/

Newark: https://www.newarknj.gov/city-mayor

https://www.newarknj.gov/council-members
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Old 09-20-2021, 05:54 AM
 
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Whoa! That's some serious work, but if I come across some, I'll post them. I may do private schools, if possible, as well.
In terms of the bolded, this is an option that can get used quite a bit in the region. Some examples that come to mind: https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=01188384
https://www.westcatholic.org/

https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00926438
https://www.loughlin.org/

https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00863704
https://www.sbp.org/

https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00862314
https://hudsoncatholic.org/

https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00599216
https://cathedralhighschool.net/

https://www.niche.com/k12/bishop-mcd...g-pa/students/
https://www.niche.com/k12/bishop-mcd...harrisburg-pa/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bish...,_Pennsylvania)

https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00249715
https://www.wilmingtonfriends.org/

https://www.niche.com/k12/saint-raph...t-ri/students/
https://www.niche.com/k12/saint-raph...-pawtucket-ri/
https://www.saintrays.org/

So, some do go this route in substantial to high numbers in the cities/areas listed.

Some others in cities/metros in the region not listed: https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00923969
https://bishopmaginn.org/

https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00929483
https://bkhs.org/

https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00939017
https://theparkschool.org/

https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=A9503551
https://www.imanichristianacademy.org/

https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00232122
https://kolbecaths.org/

I’ll stop there, but may add more later.
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Old 09-20-2021, 07:20 AM
 
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In terms of the bolded, this is an option that can get used quite a bit in the region. Some examples that come to mind: https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=01188384
https://www.westcatholic.org/

https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00926438
https://www.loughlin.org/

https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00863704
https://www.sbp.org/

https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00862314
https://hudsoncatholic.org/

https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00599216
https://cathedralhighschool.net/

https://www.niche.com/k12/bishop-mcd...g-pa/students/
https://www.niche.com/k12/bishop-mcd...harrisburg-pa/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bish...,_Pennsylvania)

https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00249715
https://www.wilmingtonfriends.org/

https://www.niche.com/k12/saint-raph...t-ri/students/
https://www.niche.com/k12/saint-raph...-pawtucket-ri/
https://www.saintrays.org/

So, some do go this route in substantial to high numbers in the cities/areas listed.

Some others in cities/metros in the region not listed: https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00923969
https://bishopmaginn.org/

https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00929483
https://bkhs.org/

https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00939017
https://theparkschool.org/

https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=A9503551
https://www.imanichristianacademy.org/

https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00232122
https://kolbecaths.org/

I’ll stop there, but may add more later.
You have been doing yeoman work in highlighting the various statistics on income, diversity, quality of life, and education in a whole slew of Northeast cities and towns that are both on and off the radar for Black middle-class families considering where to live, and for that, I think you deserve the applause of all of us following this thread.

Now I'm going to throw another item on your plate: Public charter schools.

These do not exist in all the places you've documented, but they have become a popular option in some of the big-city school districts being discussed here (Philadelphia's being one of those, Boston's another). These are independently run public schools that can choose who they accept and need not follow school district policies or curricula. They are tuition-free; their funding comes from the school districts in which they are located. In most of the cities that have them, several are highly prized either for their academic excellence (Philadelphia example: Boys' Latin of Philadelphia Charter School) or their specialized curricula or emphases (two Philadelphia examples: Russell Byers Charter School, named for a popular Philadelphia Daily News columnist, a Chestnut Hill blueblood who made digging deep into and understanding the city's neighborhoods his stock in trade, and Wissahickon Charter School, where the environment is the focus).

Charter schools were promoted by education-reform types (Left and Right) who sought alternatives to underperforming big-city public schools; left-leaning reformers accepted them because they did not funnel money to religious schools and right-leaning ones accepted them because they would be privately run and independent of the city public-school bureaucracy.
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Old 09-20-2021, 10:09 AM
 
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You have been doing yeoman work in highlighting the various statistics on income, diversity, quality of life, and education in a whole slew of Northeast cities and towns that are both on and off the radar for Black middle-class families considering where to live, and for that, I think you deserve the applause of all of us following this thread.

Now I'm going to throw another item on your plate: Public charter schools.

These do not exist in all the places you've documented, but they have become a popular option in some of the big-city school districts being discussed here (Philadelphia's being one of those, Boston's another). These are independently run public schools that can choose who they accept and need not follow school district policies or curricula. They are tuition-free; their funding comes from the school districts in which they are located. In most of the cities that have them, several are highly prized either for their academic excellence (Philadelphia example: Boys' Latin of Philadelphia Charter School) or their specialized curricula or emphases (two Philadelphia examples: Russell Byers Charter School, named for a popular Philadelphia Daily News columnist, a Chestnut Hill blueblood who made digging deep into and understanding the city's neighborhoods his stock in trade, and Wissahickon Charter School, where the environment is the focus).

Charter schools were promoted by education-reform types (Left and Right) who sought alternatives to underperforming big-city public schools; left-leaning reformers accepted them because they did not funnel money to religious schools and right-leaning ones accepted them because they would be privately run and independent of the city public-school bureaucracy.
Thanks, as this is one of those things that doesn't really get covered extensively and could serve as a guide for families that are looking for certain environments/aspects that are important to them.

Yes, charter schools are another educational option that is really big in the region. Many times, they are some of the best schools in a city/area or even state. This is an example from Providence that was mentioned earlier in the thread: https://times2.org/
https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...-academy-17500

Some other charter schools in cities/areas not listed(some for the areas listed are in the previous page or two).

https://www.greentechhigh.org/
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000059776
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000059776

https://www.sasccs.org/
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000056174
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000056174

https://www.uascs.org/
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000075839
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000075839

https://www.racschool.com/
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000061097
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000061097

https://tapestryschool.org/
https://data.nysed.gov/profile.php?instid=800000052433
https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000052433

https://www.cityhigh.org/
https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...D=420009400663
https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...r-school-16727

https://www.akfcs.org/
https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...ic-school-9236

https://hampdencharter.org/
https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...-science-91966

https://commongroundct.org/
https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...gh-school-4403

https://www.achievementfirst.org/sch...d-high-school/
https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...emy-inc-153310
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Old 09-21-2021, 07:12 AM
 
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Here is a list I came across that has a 2 or 3 places mentioned in this thread: https://www.essence.com/lifestyle/mo...-cities/#81732

Also, the Finger lakes Region of NY is mentioned in this list: https://www.essence.com/love/wedding...couples/#27197
I would say that if you do go there, Geneva, Ithaca, Auburn and perhaps Canandaigua or the Del Lago Resort, would be some good places to be based out of to explore the region. https://www.fingerlakes.org/ Skaneateles, Watkins Glen and Seneca Falls have some things worth checking out as well.

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