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The link lists MSA, Austin isn't close to being a top 15 MSA.
One to watch out for by 2046 is greater Tampa Bay.
If it was to meet the requirements for combining with Sarasota MSA you would be looking at an area currently more populated than Minneapolis St Paul.
Yeah, I expect Tampa to surpass San Diego and and Minneapolis.
boston is mansiony in spots with immense 'sprawl' but the town centres of pretty much every suburb was developed prior to 1900, so they have
a) Transit access, train in clos proximity
b) a walkable New England Downtown stretch. COmplete with a few restaurants, an art gallery, church, town hall and some shops. A few cafes too
c) Drops off to nothingness, then restarts
Charlotte and Atlanta MSA are laid out nothing like Boston's.
Atlanta's burbs (outside I-285, a lot more Inside The Perimeter) have these "town downtowns" and city halls with restaurants, churches, cafes, parks, bakeries, and shops. Some walkability.
Atlanta's burbs (outside I-285, a lot more Inside The Perimeter) have these "town downtowns" and city halls with restaurants, churches, cafes, parks, bakeries, and shops. Some walkability.
Took your streetviews to see what was off these appearing as a small town main street and here are what I found just going forward or backing up on your examples given.
Apharatta - streetview did not go forward or backwards or right or left cause it is in some development.
Streets around it are very short on-connecting and office parks and strip mall type places. If you click on
the - streetview icon to hightlight streets that streetview goes down.... it shows just all short streets with only some feeder roads. https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0746668,-84.293565,15z
Marietta - gave me typical roadway suburban intersections and typical drive to suburban offices and other attractions as part of its suburban lifestyle many love and happy about it. https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9523...7i13312!8i6656
All these areas are true suburbs and any remnants of original small cities is very little it seems. Nothing new built is on a typical street-grid either as is Atlanta's and probably Boston's way. Still it is different when access is all roadways to new developments everyone drives to and few will ever walk to something but for jogging and dog walking etc.
When you are comparing a old now suburbs of Boston that have infrastructure dating back a couple hundred years of many blocks..... it is nothing like these Atlanta suburban examples no one sees as anything but newer suburbs building in suburban settings doing some mock downtown's as developments or very little left outside them that was original as a neighborhood. They clearly add density to a fast growing region that will continue to be Suburban. All just suburban nice.
I'm guessing Atlanta and Phoenix will surpass Philadelphia, Riverside will pass San Francisco, and Seattle and Minneapolis will surpass Detroit.
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1. New York - Philadelphia Mega Sprawlyburg
2. Los Angeles - Riverside even More Sprawlyburg
3. The United Northern California Bay Areaburg
4. North Texas- Oklahoma Sprawlyburg
5. Houston Sprawlyburg
6. ChicagawaukeeLand
7. DMVBLTUB40
8. Cambridge
9. Atlanta Sprawlyburg
10. South FloriCubahamaBurg
11. PhoeTuc Sprawlyburg
12. TamSaraPeteburg
13. MicroBucks
14. Centex
15. Detoledo
16. Disney
17. Princeland
18. MileHIGH Metro
19. CCC Ohio burg
20. CharWinsboro megaburg.
Atlanta's burbs (outside I-285, a lot more Inside The Perimeter) have these "town downtowns" and city halls with restaurants, churches, cafes, parks, bakeries, and shops. Some walkability.
I don't think you know what I mean when I say small, New England pre-Industrial towns. Those are nice, but Greater Boston's towns are usually a lot smaller, narrow roads, almost look the same. Usually with a train connection and some post road. Then it dies off with about a mile of sprawly mansions, until you hit th next town center with the same 9-12 shops, amenities. Rinse, rewind, repeat.
1. New York - Philadelphia Mega Sprawlyburg
2. Los Angeles - Riverside even More Sprawlyburg
3. The United Northern California Bay Areaburg
4. North Texas- Oklahoma Sprawlyburg
5. Houston Sprawlyburg
6. ChicagawaukeeLand
7. DMVBLTUB40
8. Cambridge
9. Atlanta Sprawlyburg
10. South FloriCubahamaBurg
11. PhoeTuc Sprawlyburg
12. TamSaraPeteburg
13. MicroBucks
14. Centex
15. Detoledo
16. Disney
17. Princeland
18. MileHIGH Metro
19. CCC Ohio burg
20. CharWinsboro megaburg.
Werk from home
I got the rest, but what is Centex?
BTW, I prefer the name Orlampa for the Tampa Bay/Orlando area.
Took your streetviews to see what was off these appearing as a small town main street and here are what I found just going forward or backing up on your examples given.
Apharatta - streetview did not go forward or backwards or right or left cause it is in some development.
Streets around it are very short on-connecting and office parks and strip mall type places. If you click on
the - streetview icon to hightlight streets that streetview goes down.... it shows just all short streets with only some feeder roads. https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0746668,-84.293565,15z
Marietta - gave me typical roadway suburban intersections and typical drive to suburban offices and other attractions as part of its suburban lifestyle many love and happy about it. https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9523...7i13312!8i6656
All these areas are true suburbs and any remnants of original small cities is very little it seems. Nothing new built is on a typical street-grid either as is Atlanta's and probably Boston's way. Still it is different when access is all roadways to new developments everyone drives to and few will ever walk to something but for jogging and dog walking etc.
When you are comparing a old now suburbs of Boston that have infrastructure dating back a couple hundred years of many blocks..... it is nothing like these Atlanta suburban examples no one sees as anything but newer suburbs building in suburban settings doing some mock downtown's as developments or very little left outside them that was original as a neighborhood. They clearly add density to a fast growing region that will continue to be Suburban. All just suburban nice.
To be fair, with maybe the exception of Marietta, those were all pretty bad examples in Metro Atlanta.
Newnan (probably the best example of them all), Carrollton, Covington and Cartersville (all in Atlanta's MSA) are better examples.
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