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New York 9,036,621
Los Angeles 4,619,807
Chicago 2,853,246
Houston 2,752,097
Phoenix 2,427,526
San Antonio 2,103,483
Dallas 1,831,052
San Diego 1,787,970
Philadelphia 1,633,864
Austin 1,393,937
Fort Worth 1,367,005
Charlotte 1,335,773
Jacksonville 1,151,160
San Jose 1,087,961
Using "metro" populations to determine "biggest" cities is bogus. How much of "metro Atlanta, GA" is an anit-urban wasteland? It's also twice the land area of Boston, Charlotte, heck, almost anywhere else. That doesn't make it a "city". Use Urban Area or actual city population.
What is an anit-urban wasteland? I've never heard of that. Also, no one cares about MSA land area because commuting patterns determine MSA boundaries. Why can't people grasp that?
Chicago's MSA is losing more than twice as many white residents as black ones. Immigration is stagnant. The only bright spots are the slow trickle of Asian and Latinos. I guess people like you see the black population loss as a good thing though.
The reason blacks are leaving Chicago is that it'sis a terrible place for them to live. The segregation and income disparity are the worst of any major city in this country. So, don't worry, black people are going to keep departing to civilization for the foreseeable future.
Some of those projections look a little optimistic but I have no doubt that Dallas will surpass Chicago by 2046. Less than 2 million people separate these 2 areas now. Chicago's population loss is accelerating while Dallas is still coming on strong. It's just a matter of time.
Don't assume anything. I was talking about the city, and it is a fact that the percentage of blacks is decreasing rapidly. I don't worry about blacks leaving, some of the finest people I know happen to be black. And yes, segregation is a bad thing, but does not change any of the facts. Chicago will continue to be the capital of the Midwest and a corporation center, and these projections cannot predict any change in circumstance in the future.
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But Atlanta is still in the top 10 by UA.
The characters are still pretty much the same but UA
It's UA is quite literally the least dense of almost all major UA's calculated by the Census. Most UA's underrepresent, it's the opposite with Atlanta's.
Using "metro" populations to determine "biggest" cities is bogus. How much of "metro Atlanta, GA" is an anit-urban wasteland? It's also twice the land area of Boston, Charlotte, heck, almost anywhere else. That doesn't make it a "city". Use Urban Area or actual city population.
Take it up with the Feds, it's their baby - not Atlanta's. And I strongly disagree with your description of 'anti-urban wasteland.' If you want to get technical, I could describe portions of Mecklenburg County the same way.
Using "metro" populations to determine "biggest" cities is bogus. How much of "metro Atlanta, GA" is an anit-urban wasteland? It's also twice the land area of Boston, Charlotte, heck, almost anywhere else. That doesn't make it a "city". Use Urban Area or actual city population.
I don't think that one can talk about Atlanta's metro being anti-urban wasteland when a lot of America's largest cities proper are also anti-urban wasteland relative to their populations.
I do agree with using Urban Areas, but even those aren't treated equally across the country.
Well, I agree that most people don't know much about MSA's. I don't agree that the civic rivalry is one-way whatsoever. Institutions in both metros routinely throw shade at the other.
An innocuous article about housing prices. Houston isn't on the list that is being referred to whatsoever. Yet, Houston is mentioned in this article, purely as a comparison to show something that Dallas is better at to the locals. For some who might say, "well its just because Houston is another Texas city", San Antonio isn't on the list either and isn't mentioned (Austin is #1). But of course, any opportunity for Dallas to be able to claim being better than Houston in something is ravenously taken, even if its awkward to add a mention of Houston to the conversation. This happens all of the time in DFW-based media and is reflected in the attitudes of many of the people on the ground in my experience (I used to live in Dallas).
The idea that there is some one-way rivalry is something that people in Dallas try to sell on one hand, while simultaneously participating in it on the other hand. The reality is that its definitely a two-way rivalry that may manifest itself in slightly different ways in Dallas and Houston, but is certainly there in both places and has been for a very long time.
It's UA is quite literally the least dense of almost all major UA's calculated by the Census. Most UA's underrepresent, it's the opposite with Atlanta's.
You're joking, right? Atlanta, Georgia's Urban Area density is pitiful. Owensboro, KY, and Burlington, VT and about 100 other Urban Areas are denser. The Atlanta "urban area" is massive: the second largest in the US -- between New York and Chicago. The "density" of the Urban Area is 1706 per square mile.
The US Census Data in the link below is from 2016.
1) NYC
2) LA
3) CHI
4) DC
5) Bay (SF/SJ/OAK)
6) DAL
7) MIA
8) ATL
9) HOU
10) PHL
11) PHX
12) BOS
13) SEA
14) DEN
15) SD
What commuting pattern change do you see happening for Washington to combine its MSA with Baltimore? Same question for the SF area?
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