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As someone who’s down there fairly often, the Charlotte area is a long way from matching the Boston area. Like, there are no Worcesters, Manchesters, or Providences around Charlotte.
Consider that Providence and Worcester were big cities before the advent of the automobile, and Charlotte was just a big town until the 1940s, the spatial analogy is more like Charlotte and Winston-Salem and Spartanburg.
The geographic area of the Charlotte CSA is 3000 square miles vs. Boston's CSA area of 7500 square miles; Atlanta, GA which is 11,000 square miles; Phoenix which is nearly 16,000 square miles, etc.. Even Nashville's MSA area is massive - almost 7,000 square miles. No wonder the populations of these metros are so high.
Consider that Providence and Worcester were big cities before the advent of the automobile, and Charlotte was just a big town until the 1940s, the spatial analogy is more like Charlotte and Winston-Salem and Spartanburg.
The geographic area of the Charlotte CSA is 3000 square miles vs. Boston's CSA area of 7500 square miles; Atlanta, GA which is 11,000 square miles; Phoenix which is nearly 16,000 square miles, etc.. Even Nashville's MSA area is massive - almost 7,000 square miles. No wonder the populations of these metros are so high.
That's nonsense about Phoenix. Most of that 16,000 square miles is barren desert. The urban area of Phoenix where most of the MSA or CSA population resides is 1146 sq miles (according to 2010 census). The urban area of Boston where only half of the Boston CSA population resides is 1873 sq miles (according to 2010 census).
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Consider that Providence and Worcester were big cities before the advent of the automobile, and Charlotte was just a big town until the 1940s, the spatial analogy is more like Charlotte and Winston-Salem and Spartanburg.
Huh. That’s a good point. Do you think Charlotte and Winston-Salem will ever become 1 CSA?
That's nonsense about Phoenix. Most of that 16,000 square miles is barren desert. The urban area of Phoenix where most of the MSA or CSA population resides is 1146 sq miles (according to 2010 census). The urban area of Boston where only half of the Boston CSA population resides is 1873 sq miles (according to 2010 census).
I'm glad someone said this. The size of some of the counties out west are like states. Maricopa County alone is 9X the size of Rhode Island, nearly double Connecticut, and larger than both Massachusetts and New Hampshire. In many of these giant counties like Maricopa, vast amounts of them are unoccupied, or sparsely populated at best. This dynamic happens occasionally in the East as well. For example, Miami-Dade County is large by East Coast standards, but most of it is swamp/wetlands.
Also why is Boston suddenly Cambridge? Id say more the Boston-Providence cluster f*
Can't see Austin-San Antonio becoming one metro. Most of Austin's growth is to the north, away from San Antonio. For them to combine you'd need massive job growth in the area in between the two cities. So far we haven't really seen that.
Much more likely IMO is Austin-Killeen/Temple, though even that would probably only be a CSA.
Yes and no. Metros are counties. Some counties - especially in the west, are massive in land area, but people still live in proximity to the city.
In the West, there are likely to be vast amounts of unpopulated areas in their giant (land area) counties and metros. In the east, with just a few exceptions, they are more likely to have small towns and sparsely populated parts of counties/metros instead of large swaths of area where nobody lives.
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