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Old 02-05-2021, 04:51 PM
 
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I lived in Seattle and loved it, but even us techies weren't fond of people looting stores in our building (happened). Now, will I say that to any one in person? No, because cancel culture. But not all of us are ok with looting and destruction in the name of justice.
Can we stop characterizing things by their most extreme element or belief? Thanks.

Rioters/looters are not synonymous with protestors. Cancel culture doesn't mean people are okay with looting. Cancel culture is toxic, but the total absence of accountability is dangerous. Our government was nearly overthrown because of it.

Both sides are increasingly justifying their reckless actions for "justice" or "freedom". Let's just call out people for doing wrong. Remember, sane people are the majority.
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Old 02-05-2021, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Berkeley, CA
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In terms of talent:

LA for gaming. Activision and Blizzard is based there. So is Zwift, Oculus, Cloud9 and Riot Games. Electronic Arts, WB Interactive and Sony has regional campuses there. They hold E3 every year. And you have cross-hiring from Hollywood with digital artist or experts in CGI who have worked at Disney or other animation studios, as well as voice actors.

Boston for AI. The have a lot of companies and researchers in artificial intelligence. Research universities churning students every year and cross-hiring for workers who know biotech.

The cities with the talent aren't going to be cheap. No city has it all and you have to make a trade off.

But most affordable cities would be Montreal, Toronto and Miami.

For culture, diversity and food, that would be LA, NYC, Montreal and Toronto.
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Old 02-05-2021, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia/ Rehoboth Beach
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Philly had 700 million in capital investment in January of this year . Could be record year . More than a million ft^2 of lab space being constructed with 98 % occupancy rate for lab space .In fact the passed few years have been record breakers .

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Old 02-06-2021, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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If you want more info on Montreal and why you should invest here, I'll attach two documents about A.I and gaming. It'll cover all the investments and rankings (in addition to other info I sent you over PM)

A.I: https://www.montrealinternational.co...anuary2021.pdf

Gaming: https://www.montrealinternational.co..._game_2020.pdf
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Old 02-07-2021, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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An American can't just decide to move to Canada and work there...it doesn't work that way. Please do your research before giving too much thought to Canada.
A funded startup that will employ engineers can.

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The output of an A+ player is 100x that of a B player. Who cares if wages and fixed costs are double?
Except that a significant share of A+ players is leaving the Silicon Valley now that they can. It remains to be scene just how significantly and permanently this changes the talent landscape, but I think we definitely need to wait and see and can no longer just assume what you wrote will remain true
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Old 02-07-2021, 01:08 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Id say SF Austin and Boston
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Old 02-07-2021, 08:05 AM
 
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A funded startup that will employ engineers can.



Except that a significant share of A+ players is leaving the Silicon Valley now that they can. It remains to be scene just how significantly and permanently this changes the talent landscape, but I think we definitely need to wait and see and can no longer just assume what you wrote will remain true
My sister went from the Duke medical school to Vancouver. I had a job offer from a tech company in Burnaby but it was kind of lowball for the cost of living in Vancouver so I declined. If you have a job offer and the desired job skills, it’s pretty easy to get Landed Immigrant status (like a green card in the US).

On the Bay Area topic, I’ve had job roles in tech startups like Chief Architect. It’s really hard to create intellectual property without a conference room and a whiteboard with 3 or 4 technical leads. I’ve been telecommuting lifestyle jobs from my vacation homes since 2009. I can’t do that kind of job function. In an early stage startup, everyone needs to be there since it’s so collaborative. It’s also a high degree of ad hoc. I’m working a problem and wander over to someone else’s office to shut the door and work through it on the whiteboard. You completely lose that telecommuting. Phone and videoconferencing are no substitute for all the ad hoc things that happen every day. I don’t know how you’d do mentoring of more junior people if they’re all remote.
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Old 02-07-2021, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Hudson County, New Jersey
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Id say SF Austin and Boston
SF really isnt feasible anymore.
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Old 02-07-2021, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Berkeley, CA
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Let's be realistic about the Bay Area. It's the start up capital of not just the US, but the world. Other states might do a good job of poaching companies, but it's much more difficult to poach or recreate a start-up culture. So when people leave, they just get replaced by new players. Who is actually leaving are established companies where the young, Stanford level engineers have probably already left those companies anyways where they can build a company from ground up and have stock options with bigger potential.

With all these articles about tech leaving SF, if you've actually lived in the Bay Area, what these writers don't get is how ensconced all of the Bay Area is in tech. Not exaggerating when I say the whole Bay Area. The area practically doesn't do anything else.

It's also self-supporting, which is a huge advantage other cities don't have. Meaning if you have a start-up in NYC or Texas, and a similar one in SF, the one in SF is going to take off to mainstream success because SF tech has a sort of provincialism that if it doesn't come from there, it's probably not as good. So if the industry picks it up, eventually everyone follows.

But it's expensive. And if you don't have these outsized ambitions or funding, it's more practical to start somewhere else. You won't get your selection of the best engineers, but you also won't be filtering through applicants whose salary requirements are 170K/year base and expecting significant equity.
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Old 02-07-2021, 04:26 PM
 
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Interesting! I didn't know Albany had all these things either so I will consider them too. I also wonder if operating costs are affordable as well but it is nice to see that they have the colleges and proximity to major cities is also really good. In terms of the cities on my list, I have officially left off Miami since they do not really have the infrastructure in place or talent. Plus I saw operating expenses there and its too expensive for a city without the talent or infrastructure in place. I'm 50/50 on Los Angeles but the cost of living there is also high and the state seems to be horribly run. I have added Austin on my short list but I am still not 100 percent fully committed there. And I will be talking to some startup companies in Montreal, Boston and Toronto next week for more advice and to get a feel for things. I'll also consider Albany since I did not expect that much from them to be honest.
Hence why it is a sleeper...If you want truly urban neighborhoods, Center Square in Albany, Downtown Troy and the Stockade Historical neighborhood in Schenectady are some that come to mind. Saratoga Springs is another city in the metro area that is smaller, but is known for having good nightlife for its size and is quite affluent. There are other walkable neighborhoods like the Upper Union Area of Schenectady; as well as Albany neighborhoods such as Helderberg, Pine Hills and New Scotland that are more like streetcar suburban style in built environment.

It also has train access to NYC via its station in Rensselaer.
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