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I’ve been reading without posting to see if someone would actually give a definition of the urban criteria that is being measured here. Through 11 pages, people are using their own arbitrarily definitions and debating the urbanity of Seattle and Baltimore based on their own criteria. First rule that was broken is not defining what is considered urban. This debate would be very simple and easy to measure with that information. What is being measured here?
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Funny The map location for Seattle is 7.8 miles from downtown Seattle. The map location for Baltimore is 14 blocks from downtown Baltimore. You can see downtown in the background. the 1400 blocks in Seattle are all towers ? Why not post a map picture 8 miles from downtown Baltimore on a side street?
Peep my posts up thread. I've shown shots from various parts of both cities. There are neighborhoods 14 blocks away from Downtown Seattle that have the same level of development as my latest post. Within downtown, it's Seattle easily. The inner core that's not a part of downtown of either city, Baltimore wins (although Seattle has better mixed use). Then Baltimore beats Seattle in urbanity on the outskirts narrowly.
Are there any other urban planners, developers, or architects that want to chime in?
Baltimore is almost as dense as Seattle still today, and it's lost over 300,000 people from it's peak population. Would we really even be having this discussion if Baltimore filled back up again...
Baltimore is almost as dense as Seattle still today, and it's lost over 300,000 people from it's peak population. Would we really even be having this discussion if Baltimore filled back up again...
Baltimore currently is 7098 PSM Seattle 9337 PSM not really close. Seattle has 200,000 more people in the same amount of land.
Baltimore currently is 7098 PSM Seattle 9337 PSM not really close. Seattle has 200,000 more people in the same amount of land.
In academic circles, urban design and structural density have nothing to do with occupancy. This debate has also been used for Los Angeles which has extreme population density in the urban core neighborhoods, but can’t compare to the structurally dense Big 6 (NYC/Chi/SF/DC/Philly/Bos) because those cities were designed prior to the car while LA was designed around the car.
In academic circles, urban design and structural density have nothing to do with occupancy. This debate has also been used for Los Angeles which has extreme population density in the urban core neighborhoods, but can’t compare to the structurally dense Big 6 (NYC/Chi/SF/DC/Philly/Bos) because those cities were designed prior to the car while LA was designed around the car.
Man that Rosebank Ave shot was beautiful. They don't make neighborhoods like that anymore champ.
Absolutely not. Now they build these houses as cheaply and bland as possible.
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