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Household density is much higher in Seattle due to lower avg HH sizes. Baltimore is also becoming less dense as population declines and has something like 17,000 abandoned buildings. Anything abandoned in Seattle will be bought by developers and turned into something. Anything abandoned in Baltimore goes on the list to be bulldozed.
Seattle's skyline has blossomed, with 45 buildings over 400 feet, nearly as many as San Francisco, and most built since 2000. Baltimore has 8 buildings over 400 feet, with just one built in the last 20 years. Private developers finance projects in Seattle while Baltimore relies on "TIF" or tax incentive financing because no developer can make money there without a subsidy.
"Vibrancy" in Baltimore is a bunch of dudes in jean shorts hanging out by the Inner Harbor at chain restaurants, along with a bunch of thug kids on bikes and their friends nearby squeegee'ing car windshields. It doesn't compared to Pike Place in any way, shape, or form. The few other parts of Baltimore with walkable bar/restaurant areas like Fells Point and Federal Hill are 1/10th the size of Ballard, Capitol Hill, Belltown, or Fremont and have very few new places.
This could be the silliest, most one sided comparison I've ever seen on C vs. C.
Well said. Seattle may not have the brick rowhouse appearance of urban cities in the Northeast like Philly or Baltimore, but who cares, that's not the benchmark of an urban city.
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Uh, you don't seem to understand what urbane means:
Definition of urbane
: notably polite or polished in manner
I didn't make the Merriam-Webster's definition of urbanity, where they used the word "urbane" to describe. The term urbanity, obviously has different perceptions of how it's used. Where as on C-D it's most commonly brought up regarding an "urban center" or "urban structure"/ buildings, city streets etc.
Household density is much higher in Seattle due to lower avg HH sizes. Baltimore is also becoming less dense as population declines and has something like 17,000 abandoned buildings. Anything abandoned in Seattle will be bought by developers and turned into something. Anything abandoned in Baltimore goes on the list to be bulldozed.
Seattle's skyline has blossomed, with 45 buildings over 400 feet, nearly as many as San Francisco, and most built since 2000. Baltimore has 8 buildings over 400 feet, with just one built in the last 20 years. Private developers finance projects in Seattle while Baltimore relies on "TIF" or tax incentive financing because no developer can make money there without a subsidy.
"Vibrancy" in Baltimore is a bunch of dudes in jean shorts hanging out by the Inner Harbor at chain restaurants, along with a bunch of thug kids on bikes and their friends nearby squeegee'ing car windshields. It doesn't compared to Pike Place in any way, shape, or form. The few other parts of Baltimore with walkable bar/restaurant areas like Fells Point and Federal Hill are 1/10th the size of Ballard, Capitol Hill, Belltown, or Fremont and have very few new places.
This could be the silliest, most one sided comparison I've ever seen on C vs. C.
You're leaving out Hampden, Canton, Highlandtown, Harbor East, Remington, Mount Vernon and shops along Harford Road...
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Seattle and it's not close.
Household density is much higher in Seattle due to lower avg HH sizes. Baltimore is also becoming less dense as population declines and has something like 17,000 abandoned buildings. Anything abandoned in Seattle will be bought by developers and turned into something. Anything abandoned in Baltimore goes on the list to be bulldozed.
Seattle's skyline has blossomed, with 45 buildings over 400 feet, nearly as many as San Francisco, and most built since 2000. Baltimore has 8 buildings over 400 feet, with just one built in the last 20 years. Private developers finance projects in Seattle while Baltimore relies on "TIF" or tax incentive financing because no developer can make money there without a subsidy.
"Vibrancy" in Baltimore is a bunch of dudes in jean shorts hanging out by the Inner Harbor at chain restaurants, along with a bunch of thug kids on bikes and their friends nearby squeegee'ing car windshields. It doesn't compared to Pike Place in any way, shape, or form. The few other parts of Baltimore with walkable bar/restaurant areas like Fells Point and Federal Hill are 1/10th the size of Ballard, Capitol Hill, Belltown, or Fremont and have very few new places.
This could be the silliest, most one sided comparison I've ever seen on C vs. C.
You're right about one thing, the comparison really isn't right here tbh.
Funny The map location for Seattle is 7.8 miles from downtown Seattle. The map location for Baltimore is 14 blocks from downtown Baltimore. You can see downtown in the background. the 1400 blocks in Seattle are all towers ? Why not post a map picture 8 miles from downtown Baltimore on a side street?
Funny The map location for Seattle is 7.8 miles from downtown Seattle. The map location for Baltimore is 14 blocks from downtown Baltimore. You can see downtown in the background. the 1400 blocks in Seattle are all towers ? Why not post a map picture 8 miles from downtown Baltimore on a side street?
Funny The map location for Seattle is 7.8 miles from downtown Seattle. The map location for Baltimore is 14 blocks from downtown Baltimore. You can see downtown in the background. the 1400 blocks in Seattle are all towers ? Why not post a map picture 8 miles from downtown Baltimore on a side street?
If he did that, that would expose him to how much of a mismatch this comparison is.......
Heavily tilting the odds is the only way Baltimore has a fighting chance in this comparison
If he did that, that would expose him to how much of a mismatch this comparison is.......
Heavily tilting the odds is the only way Baltimore has a fighting chance in this comparison
Baltimore has the urban bones but Seattle is operating on a much different and higher level at the moment
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