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Well a block off of Michigan Ave. is definitely more vibrant. I've been to Streeterville within the last couple months. Look at the built environment of the neighborhood. Curb cuts everywhere, delivery zones fronting streets, parking garages, surface lots, sterile blank walls on many buildings, Pick-up/drop-off driveways for cars at the entrances of a lot of buildings. Huge podiums with blank-walls, There's no real life at the base of the towers. Street integration was not a priority.
I'll show some examples: These are essentially endless but the sterility, auto-centric character and coldness is apparent within these below.
Hmm I see what you mean. You picked pictures that are used to support your viewpoint, but there are many streets that do have shops and bars and whatnot, but I agree, a lot of Streeterville is like that.
Hmm I see what you mean. You picked pictures that are used to support your viewpoint, but there are many streets that do have shops and bars and whatnot, but I agree, a lot of Streeterville is like that.
How would you say River North compares then?
Pictures were carefully chosen. If you turn a corner or go up another block, the scenes are quite different. One can always find what they're looking for, if they carefully leave things out that might not support their argument. I believe there is more to Streeterville, than parking ramps. You can find these in all cities, though, as people need to park their cars. There are definitely areas of the city that I prefer, though.
Pictures were carefully chosen. If you turn a corner or go up another block, the scenes are quite different. One can always find what they're looking for, if they carefully leave things out that might not support their argument. I believe there is more to Streeterville, than parking ramps. You can find these in all cities, though, as people need to park their cars. There are definitely areas of the city that I prefer, though.
I totally agree. Very select pictures. Overall Streeterville is pretty nice IMO, and if this were a trial, your evidence would be stacked.
This is too funny....I selectively chose pictures? How else are you supposed to illustrate to someone what you are speaking about?
The fabric of the neighborhood is the fabric of the neighborhood. You don't have to "go looking for it" to cherry-pick a few examples in Streeterville, there's an abundance. The architecture is mostly bland, podiums, garages, building entrances set-back, surface lots, blank-walls, plazas, huge garages, curb cuts, delivery zones etc. It has a vibe and aesthetic in many spots that cities like Houston and Dallas are ridiculed for.
Of course there are pockets that have some urban form and vibrancy. The neighborhood doesn't have a palpable intensity however and no strong identity. It also lacks attractions, what street in Streeterville is a must experience?
Here are some more examples that could go on and on: After all this "evidence" one would be hard pressed to not admit that it is merely a reflection of the neighborhood's built environment.
Hmm I see what you mean. You picked pictures that are used to support your viewpoint, but there are many streets that do have shops and bars and whatnot, but I agree, a lot of Streeterville is like that.
How would you say River North compares then?
I think River North is much more appealing and has a consistent hustle & bustle. It has growth potential beyond the capacity of any other downtown neighborhood given its size and mixed-use nature. In fairness River North also has its fair share of podium towers, blank walls, underutilized lots and so-forth but it's objectively a more urban setting with far more historic architecture, better street integration, mid-rise warehouses and contiguous blocks of human-scaled building-stock that projects a distinct vibe from a pedestrian perspective imo.
RN has far superior night-life, dining, shopping, more pedestrian activity etc. Fulton Market has unquestionably stolen a lot of its thunder but I think over the next development cycle we could see transformations of corridors similar to what we saw on Wells which would have a huge impact on vibrancy and cohesion. It isn't lacking developers interested in the neighborhood and in that department Streeterville can't keep up. Fortunately today, we realize much of what Streeterville is, is how not to build a city.
This is too funny....I selectively chose pictures? How else are you supposed to illustrate to someone what you are speaking about?
The fabric of the neighborhood is the fabric of the neighborhood. You don't have to "go looking for it" to cherry-pick a few examples in Streeterville, there's an abundance. The architecture is mostly bland, podiums, garages, building entrances set-back, surface lots, blank-walls, plazas, huge garages, curb cuts, delivery zones etc. It has a vibe and aesthetic in many spots that cities like Houston and Dallas are ridiculed for.
Of course there are pockets that have some urban form and vibrancy. The neighborhood doesn't have a palpable intensity however and no strong identity. It also lacks attractions, what street in Streeterville is a must experience?
Here are some more examples that could go on and on: After all this "evidence" one would be hard pressed to not admit that it is merely a reflection of the neighborhood's built environment.
When I visited Chicago, I left with this impression of the area. A lot of real long blocks that aren't particularly lively. If you are moving to NYC and want to live in a high rise, move to like the upper east side.
When I visited Chicago, I left with this impression of the area. A lot of real long blocks that aren't particularly lively. If you are moving to NYC and want to live in a high rise, move to like the upper east side.
Agreed. With all the really booming/lively areas, Streeterville is dead in comparison
Most of this thread, lost sight of the type of downtown area the OP wants. Instead telling him Streeterville is lousy.
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Originally Posted by tugofpeace
What I like about Streeterville (Chicago) is the following:
1) It's relatively quiet for a downtown neighborhood
2) It's a short walk away from River North, which has good nightlife
3) It has plenty of highrise buildings, and educated people in late 20s/early 30s
4) It has close proximity to the lakefront
5) It's easy to get onto lakeshore drive
As easy as it would be to move back to Chicago, I'm still trying to see NYC as a possibility. I'm looking to be a short walk away from a decent gym, places to eat, etc, and not pay more than $2500 all in for a decent one bedroom with doorman/elevator.
I can imagine some people will say to try Brooklyn or just commute in from NJ, but I'm not very interested in doing that. Any suggestions?
I'm a remote worker so proximity to work isn't an issue. I'm debating moving there now with $0 cash but $0 debt, or just living in Chicago for another year and moving once I have $35-40k saved. However by then prices might jump back up to the point where $2500 all in, is impossible.
This thread had some help early.... then went off on Streeterville downtown Chicago and not what was asked or sought.
I also believe this thread SHOULD BE in the NYC Forum. It ask specifically about a location like a Streeterville /downtown Chicago residential area kind of feel/vibe, but in NYC and seems as if in Manhattan?
I would say Manhattan for all asked for? Could be difficult $$$ ... especially if in a modern high-rise or skyscraper. That would be for a local to help and why IT SHOULD BE in the NYC forum.
This thread had some help early.... then went off on Streeterville downtown Chicago and not what was asked or sought.
I also believe this thread SHOULD BE in the NYC Forum. It ask specifically about a location like a Streeterville /downtown Chicago residential area kind of feel/vibe, but in NYC and seems as if in Manhattan?
I would say Manhattan for all asked for? Could be difficult $$$ ... especially if in a modern high-rise or skyscraper. That would be for a local to help and why IT SHOULD BE in the NYC forum.
Agreed. Some of the posters here seem more intent on disputing OP's criteria, than offering a legitimate suggestion.
Jersey City and LIC satisfy most of his wants, but sounds like OP is looking for somewhere more central. There are some residential corners of Manhattan that are relatively quiet. Battery Park City and the East River-fronting neighborhoods from Kips Bay through Lenox Hill, all have plenty of high rises while being a step removed from the action in Downtown/Midtown.
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Most of this thread, lost sight of the type of downtown area the OP wants. Instead telling him Streeterville is lousy.
