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Remind me again how that GDP is helping the average Joe in Los Angeles? Oh right, it isn't. A middle class family will have better economic prospects in South Florida than Southern California.
100% These California boosters appeal to stats that have no real relevance for the average person.
Florida affords a better life for a far larger spectrum of economic backgrounds.
And if you enjoy truly warm weather year round, a fantastic nightlife, gorgeous people, swimmable and clean beaches, no state taxes, a latin/international vibe, and a better COL....then Florida is a no brainer...
Also, as someone else pointed out, South Florida isn't limited to the Miami metro, although MIA metro holds its own and sometimes surpasses Los Angeles in all the aforementioned criteria, and it completely blows San Diego (boresville) out of the water....but I digress. Depending on how you define SoFlo; I'd say Lake Okeechobee and south, then the region also includes Key West and the rest of the Key Islands, Marco Island, Ft. Myers, Cape Coral, Naples and Venice...
Southern Cali is more geographically diverse...and if the mountains and desert are super important to you, then I can understand your preference for SoCal....
And I haven't even addressed the rancid homeless problem that plagues California cities; something that does not exist in South Florida. Yes, there are homeless...but NOTHING like what exists in LA and San Diego..
All these factors make South Florida the easy choice...and it's not even close...
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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100% spot on and how I feel.
Like you said, if mountains + desert matter to you (or if you are the 1% of the total US population that actually surfs) then I could see why SoCal would be important to some (though the high rises in SoFla are my manmade mountains and I can interact with people inside them).
The only thing I miss about SoCal was being able to stay up for the conclusion and outcome of late evening baseball and football games (though with the internet, it is much better now the next morning for getting actual scores and highlights than when I grew up decades ago).
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100% These California boosters appeal to stats that have no real relevance for the average person.
Florida affords a better life for a far larger spectrum of economic backgrounds.
And if you enjoy truly warm weather year round, a fantastic nightlife, gorgeous people, swimmable and clean beaches, no state taxes, a latin/international vibe, and a better COL....then Florida is a no brainer...
Also, as someone else pointed out, South Florida isn't limited to the Miami metro, although MIA metro holds its own and sometimes surpasses Los Angeles in all the aforementioned criteria, and it completely blows San Diego (boresville) out of the water....but I digress. Depending on how you define SoFlo; I'd say Lake Okeechobee and south, then the region also includes Key West and the rest of the Key Islands, Marco Island, Ft. Myers, Cape Coral, Naples and Venice...
Southern Cali is more geographically diverse...and if the mountains and desert are super important to you, then I can understand your preference for SoCal....
And I haven't even addressed the rancid homeless problem that plagues California cities; something that does not exist in South Florida. Yes, there are homeless...but NOTHING like what exists in LA and San Diego..
All these factors make South Florida the easy choice...and it's not even close...
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I would have went nuts last year with all the restrictions/closures in CA…some of my friends who are small business owners (gyms, restaurants) went ballistic. Part of the reason many, including Californians, were dying to leave their former state and moved to SoFla this past year.
S. FL even though S. CA has better weather in my opinion.
S.Cal has more options climatologically... from San Diego all the way up to the high desert of Joshua Tree and the greenery of Idyllwild, S.Cal has a climate for everybody. - and no hurricanes.
That said, that's the only thing S.Cal has going for it. Every other indicator favors S.Florida.
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Remind me again how that GDP is helping the average Joe in Los Angeles? Oh right, it isn't. A middle class family will have better economic prospects in South Florida than Southern California.
Actually, they won't. Florida has some of the lowest wages in the country, so unless you're in STEM or law, you're going to have low wages with high prices in the Miami/Ft Lauderdale/West Palm metro
Actually, they won't. Florida has some of the lowest wages in the country, so unless you're in STEM or law, you're going to have low wages with high prices in the Miami/Ft Lauderdale/West Palm metro
Yawn. Comments like this are dated and now factually untrue. From 2018 to 2019, FL’s income grew 6.79%. The per capita income is just around the national average.
Additionally, California has a worse gap between rich and poor and a horrific cost of living to income ratio.
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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Yes—SoFla is more than just STEM and law (and bus boys and pool sweepers..lol). We do have finance, sales, real estate / real estate development, import/export and small business. Granted, SoCal has a more diversified economy with more corporate HQ and opportunities in more fields. Depends on one’s career path. While housing costs are now comparable (though still more square footage/dollar in SoFla and which I suspect is temporary) no state income tax and lower car ownership costs in FL.
Since Covid a number of transplants from CA and elsewhere have brought their higher wages (to compensate for higher COL) and/or wealth with them to SoFla.
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Yawn. Comments like this are dated and now factually untrue. From 2018 to 2019, FL’s income grew 6.79%. The per capita income is just around the national average.
Additionally, California has a worse gap between rich and poor and a horrific cost of living to income ratio.
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