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View Poll Results: Which US City Will Build a 1,000 Ft Skyscraper?
Miami 76 49.67%
Charlotte 24 15.69%
Dallas 22 14.38%
Austin 61 39.87%
Seattle 33 21.57%
Boston 8 5.23%
Nashville 13 8.50%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 153. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-19-2021, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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FAA has objected to proposals over 900 feet in Jersey City. The tallest building in JC, 99 Hudson, is 900 feet tall. Originally proposed as a taller building (995 ft) the height was reduced to appease the FAA.
This is actually (thankfully) not true.
In JC, on the waterfront area, you need FAA approval for any building higher than 833ft tall for them to do an impact study. The developer of 99 Hudson themselves submitted a 900ft tall building to the FAA for approval, and FAA approved the building at a final height of 911ft above sea level (900ft tall building + 11ft of ground elevation) with no issues. The FAA never reduced the height and they never yet were submitted a plan for a supertall that they rejected, so it is quite possible that they can approve future buildings at 1000+ ft in the area. In addition, there are actually no flight patterns that go over the buildings in Jersey City, as there is a flight path along the Hudson river, and a holding pattern for planes over the New York bay itself, with Newark Liberty flight paths going North to South, not east to west. The planes that overfly Jersey City waterfront and Manhattan are well above the 2000ft height.
Due to the runways at Newark Liberty, I think even Newark can have supertalls, despite the airport being fairly close.

The reason why Boston is so screwed is because the geniuses designing Logan made runways in an almost 360 degree pattern...as a result there are FAA height restrictions extending in a circle over the whole airport in all directions.

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Old 10-19-2021, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Not Boston.

Highest you can build is 880' at Lord and Taylor Site. Or the area behind the garden.. you may be able to get over 925'.

But then you have to fight all the NIMBYs.

My vote is Miami, Austin, Dallas or Charlotte.
Didn't realize the exact height limits. That's a bummer because Boston could use several more skyscrapers in the 800-1200 foot range, or so.

If I had to rank the chances, of the cities I listed, it would go from most likely to least likely, like this--

Miami
Austin
Dallas
Jersey City
Seattle
Nashville
Las Vegas
Boston
Phoenix
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Old 10-19-2021, 01:27 PM
 
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Didn't realize the exact height limits. That's a bummer because Boston could use several more skyscrapers in the 800-1200 foot range, or so.

If I had to rank the chances, of the cities I listed, it would go from most likely to least likely, like this--

Miami
Austin
Dallas
Jersey City
Seattle
Nashville
Las Vegas
Boston
Phoenix
Downtown Phoenix really couldn't because of the airport, downtown is right in the flight path. You could build it in uptown, but it wouldn't make too much sense.
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Old 10-19-2021, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Didn't realize the exact height limits. That's a bummer because Boston could use several more skyscrapers in the 800-1200 foot range, or so.

If I had to rank the chances, of the cities I listed, it would go from most likely to least likely, like this--

Miami
Austin
Dallas
Jersey City
Seattle
Nashville
Las Vegas
Boston
Phoenix
im content. too many super talls sterilizes the area. ie, NYCs super talls have been working against the city's vibe since construction. Boston's 600+ footers are pretty bland at steet level.
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Old 10-19-2021, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Medfid
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I think building heights in Boston are capped below 1000 feet because of Logan Airport. I think the max height is something like 700 feet.
There is actually one spot zoned for 1000ft and close to 2 of the city's 3 tallest: here.

Here's that spot circled on the FAA's height restriction map:


There are talks about the Hynes Convention Center being sold by the Mass Convention Center Authority for private redevelopment. If that happens, then there's a chance Boston could get a 1000ft tower at the sweet spot. However, I'd call it pretty unlikely.
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Old 10-19-2021, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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im content. too many super talls sterilizes the area. ie, NYCs super talls have been working against the city's vibe since construction. Boston's 600+ footers are pretty bland at steet level.
Supertalls have absolutely no impact at street level, it is all about how their podiums are designed, just like any other highrise. Most NYC supertalls look fine at street level, no better or worse than other buildings, and most even enhance it.
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Old 10-19-2021, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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There is actually one spot zoned for 1000ft and close to 2 of the city's 3 tallest: here.

Here's that spot circled on the FAA's height restriction map:


There are talks about the Hynes Convention Center being sold by the Mass Convention Center Authority for private redevelopment. If that happens, then there's a chance Boston could get a 1000ft tower at the sweet spot. However, I'd call it pretty unlikely.
Now add in Shadow Laws. Reduces it down to 800 something feet at Hynes.
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Old 10-19-2021, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Supertalls have absolutely no impact at street level, it is all about how their podiums are designed, just like any other highrise. Most NYC supertalls look fine at street level, no better or worse than other buildings, and most even enhance it.
Strongly. Very strongly, Disagree with this point. Supertalls and skyscrapers in general sterilize communities. But thats neither here nor there.

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Old 10-19-2021, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Medfid
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Now add in Shadow Laws. Reduces it down to 800 something feet at Hynes.
What would it cast shadows on? The Comm Ave Mall?

Do you have a map or something?
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Old 10-19-2021, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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What would it cast shadows on? The Comm Ave Mall?

Do you have a map or something?
Copley Plaza and Comm Ave.
also, No because its competitor site.

Just look up shadow laws in Boston. Pretty easy to find
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