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What about San Diego? It didn't even have much of a spike to begin with. Meanwhile Atlanta is having a huge spike in 2022, but the 2021 totals was about even with 2020 (only 1 more). Overall though the early 2020's are much higher than the 2010's.
Thats what I mean though, some cities like ATL, Milwaulee, NOLA, Baltimore, or even San Bernardino in my state are continuing to rise... otoh you have LA, which is basically tied ytd 2022-2021, NYC numbers are slightly down, Chicago looks like it might have peaked and wont surpass 800-900. Even Philly might have peaked and is actually down so far Ytd. The national rate was 6.5-7.0 per 100k since 2020 and maybe, just maybe it might not go pass 7 per... in regards to cities with big spikes such as Atlanta, we can only hope 2022 might be the peak year and not surpass in the future the same way St. Louis had the 263 murder record in 2020. Again I hope I'm not wrong cause then next year will be worse and then it'll really mirror a societal shift like the late 60s, early 70s.
Thats what I mean though, some cities like ATL, Milwaulee, NOLA, Baltimore, or even San Bernardino in my state are continuing to rise... otoh you have LA, which is basically tied ytd 2022-2021, NYC numbers are slightly down, Chicago looks like it might have peaked and wont surpass 800-900. Even Philly might have peaked and is actually down so far Ytd. The national rate was 6.5-7.0 per 100k since 2020 and maybe, just maybe it might not go pass 7 per... in regards to cities with big spikes such as Atlanta, we can only hope 2022 might be the peak year and not surpass in the future the same way St. Louis had the 263 murder record in 2020. Again I hope I'm not wrong cause then next year will be worse and then it'll really mirror a societal shift like the late 60s, early 70s.
I was thinking we might have been heading back towards the late 80's/early 90's rates, compared with the relatively calm and peaceful 2000's and 2010's.
I was thinking we might have been heading back towards the late 80's/early 90's rates, compared with the relatively calm and peaceful 2000's and 2010's.
The 80s and 90s is like if these elevated murder rates keep goin on to the 2030s and 40s.. I hope not, but I think the technology is too much for things to get that out of control, regardless how the right keep talking about revolving doors, thats nothing new, I think its the technology that prevents the intensity of the situation because of the experience gained from the 70s to 90s.. but the overall crime rate, even though it rised, its still far from back then, its just different.
We don’t have the crime of the 80s and 90s due to Roe v Wade being implemented in 1973 and a major reduction in lead paint and gas (which wafted in the air) and gains in technology and forensics. We live in a much more controlled and monitored state in general due to the crime that society experienced back the same
We don’t have the crime of the 80s and 90s due to Roe v Wade being implemented in 1973 and a major reduction in lead paint and gas (which wafted in the air) and gains in technology and forensics. We live in a much more controlled and monitored state in general due to the crime that society experienced back the same
Yep, things were just different back then... the opposite of El Savador where they can have a sudden extreme spike since they have a government more corrupt, more out of control. I will say our murder rate overall is not really too different... 6.5 vs 10 at the peak when you look at it like that. Edit - I say the 1970s because 1972 is the year the first murder happened in Compton between the bloods and crips that started the social war here.
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Bronx - 47 (up from 45 in 2021)
Brooklyn - 41 (down from 48 in 2021)
Manhattan - 27 (down from 30 in 2021)
Queens - 22 (down from 31 in 2021)
Staten Island - 1 (down from 6 in 2021)
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