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Miami with 35? Or so for the city (100+ county) after an 89 year old was shot.
Just a small update, but I noticed a lot of shootings have happened in Miami the past three weeks and have NOT been reported or shown on crime mapping. Missing about ~6 homicides (most in the city proper) and about 12 shooting events county wide (with multiple people involved).
It looks like Chicagos homicide rate/pace might be picking back up. Already 3-5 killed and it's Saturday. The weekday rate is trending up aswell.
2022 might not be mirroring 2017, where the homicide spike from 2016 began to drop at the end of 2017 and into 2018. The same goes for every other city, the pandemic has changed things.
It looks like Chicagos homicide rate/pace might be picking back up. Already 3-5 killed and it's Saturday. The weekday rate is trending up aswell.
2022 might not be mirroring 2017, where the homicide spike from 2016 began to drop at the end of 2017 and into 2018. The same goes for every other city, the pandemic has changed things.
2023 is going be interesting in Chicago with no cash bail for second degree murder, kidnapping, aggravated DUI
Oh yeah... it's like Chicago/IL wants to keep it's top spot in the crime ranks.
I predict Chicago can eventually hit 1000 homicides in a matter of by 2025 or so..
I think what many posters on this particular thread don't realize is that this type of stuff has no real "rhyme or reason". The people hoping for crime rates to go back to how it was around 2010 are not being realistic. These numbers themselves are arbitrary.
If 1 murder is 1 too many, then why would, for example, 300 murders be considered "safe" or "low"?
The natural truth is this type of thing can very much be "unlimited". Look at how inhumane the Mexican drug cartels can be to human beings in regards to murder and torture.
I believe our society now and frankly the entire world are going through a transition. Think about how everyday incidences are becoming more extreme. Road rage shootings for example, are a dime a dozen these days.
Our political system is becoming very extreme (more) and this trickles down to the people. When the people have nothing to believe in anymore, they are going to act how nature can, which has no limit.
Everybodys' opinions are becoming more solidified within each individual because there is much less collective beliefs and agreements now. There is no point or reason in argueing or debating things now, so the next step is to enact violence. Physical pain does wonders to sway opinions and that is why pain is used by any institution (military conflict, drug cartel, prison gangs, etc etc.)
People have to remember at the end of the day we are all humans and we are all capable of the same atrocities..
With that being said, the homicide rates will continue to inch upwards and might even lurch forward as we progress through time.
Also want to add that the reason why homicides will continue to move up is because as more people become effected by tragedies, these kinds of things go up exponentially. The revenge culture will rise exponentially and this will be reflected in statistics ofcourse.
Last edited by J.r smith; 09-10-2022 at 07:35 PM..
Oh yeah... it's like Chicago/IL wants to keep it's top spot in the crime ranks.
I predict Chicago can eventually hit 1000 homicides in a matter of by 2025 or so..
I think what many posters on this particular thread don't realize is that this type of stuff has no real "rhyme or reason". The people hoping for crime rates to go back to how it was around 2010 are not being realistic. These numbers themselves are arbitrary.
If 1 murder is 1 too many, then why would, for example, 300 murders be considered "safe" or "low"?
The natural truth is this type of thing can very much be "unlimited". Look at how inhumane the Mexican drug cartels can be to human beings in regards to murder and torture.
I believe our society now and frankly the entire world are going through a transition. Think about how everyday incidences are becoming more extreme. Road rage shootings for example, are a dime a dozen these days.
Our political system is becoming very extreme (more) and this trickles down to the people. When the people have nothing to believe in anymore, they are going to act how nature can, which has no limit.
Everybodys' opinions are becoming more solidified within each individual because there is much less collective beliefs and agreements now. There is no point or reason in argueing or debating things now, so the next step is to enact violence. Physical pain does wonders to sway opinions and that is why pain is used by any institution (military conflict, drug cartel, prison gangs, etc etc.)
People have to remember at the end of the day we are all humans and we are all capable of the same atrocities..
With that being said, the homicide rates will continue to inch upwards and might even lurch forward as we progress through time.
Also want to add that the reason why homicides will continue to move up is because as more people become effected by tragedies, these kinds of things go up exponentially. The revenge culture will rise exponentially and this will be reflected in statistics ofcourse.
I don't think so probably 700 in bad year but think going level off to 450-500 yearly in coming years
I don't think so probably 700 in bad year but think going level off to 450-500 yearly in coming years
But why 450-500? Why not less than 100? Why is 400-500 this "natural" number for Chicago? Chicago did not have 400-500 homicides in 1900 or 1940.
This 400-500 number only existed in a time frame of about 20 years. What reason would it be for this particular number to stay confluent?
Why did Chicago have 900 murders in 2 seperate periods? These types of statistics do not work in the same fashion as population density and other metrics people like to compare on here.
Let me also add, why did Baltimore stayed over 300 after the riots 7 years ago? Same for St. Louis.
If the homicide rates in every city doesn't go higher, it certainly doesn't seem like it'll fall back to 2010 levels.
These questions are not towards you, just for those that view crime stats as some easily concrete metric.
Last edited by J.r smith; 09-10-2022 at 09:21 PM..
But why 450-500? Why not less than 100? Why is 400-500 this "natural" number for Chicago? Chicago did not have 400-500 homicides in 1900 or 1940.
This 400-500 number only existed in a time frame of about 20 years. What reason would it be for this particular number to stay confluent?
Why did Chicago have 900 murders in 2 seperate periods? These types of statistics do not work in the same fashion as population density and other metrics people like to compare on here.
Crime rose rapidly since 1970s then 1980s to mid 1990s was crack era so it have highest crime rates you have to combine environmental lead levels peaked, economic slow down, white flight it hit the minority community the hardest. Environmental lead block the neural receptors that are needed to let the brain assimilate information. Baby boomers was in their teen years back then and world war 2 veterans coming home so they was depressed and jobless so you have increase in drug use and bigger demand. The great migration from down south people looking for work and factories jobs was getting ship overseas so they wasn't much jobs around so people turn to crime.
Lack of 2 parent households due to drugs and WW2. The economy wasn't growing fast enough. , Uncontrolled immigration, drugs, lack of political will to deal with community issues and root of it.
Something happen in late 1960s with baby boomers and urban areas
Chicago bad areas is not gentrifying like NYC and LA
Chicago torn down their projects so it spread gangs closer to their rivals
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