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I want see breakdown for Los Angeles and Chicago for example South Central LA, Hollywood and Chicago like South Side, Downtown.
As of 10/2:
Chicago- 523
Downtown ( CBD*) -17
West- 138
North- 45
South- 321
Two miscellaneous murders included in CPD weekly report but not in sun times. Mostly likely additions to the west or south side.
* I used the more conservative borders displayed on the cityofchicago website that define the central business district: Division and Chicago Ave to the north; Roosevelt Rd to the south; Halsted St. to the west; Navy Pier/Lake Michigan to the east. Everything outside of that, I assigned to the north, west, or south side, respectively. I also included statistics belonging to the communities of West Town, Pilsen, and South Lawndale as part of the west side.
Two miscellaneous murders included in CPD weekly report but not in sun times. Mostly likely additions to the west or south side.
* I used the more conservative borders displayed on the cityofchicago website that define the central business district: Division and Chicago Ave to the north; Roosevelt Rd to the south; Halsted St. to the west; Navy Pier/Lake Michigan to the east. Everything outside of that, I assigned to the north, west, or south side, respectively. I also included statistics belonging to the communities of West Town, Pilsen, and South Lawndale as part of the west side.
I always assumed the West and South side of Chicago to be about equally dangerous. But according to those numbers the South side is actually much more dangerous.
I always assumed the West and South side of Chicago to be about equally dangerous. But according to those numbers the South side is actually much more dangerous.
West side has a smaller population. I came to the same total about 325 for southside with est population of 752k. Rate of about 42. Even if Southside were its own city the entire cities of NO, StL, and Baltimore would still have a higher rate.
Raleigh is at 28/5.97, after 32 last year. The city is on pace to finish '22 with ~37 this year, which would break 2008's record of 34 homicides. Geographic breakdowns are as follows:
East Raleigh 10/22.22 (up from 4 last year)
West Raleigh 2/5.56 (up from 1 last year)
South Raleigh 5/4.31 (matches last year's 5)
North Raleigh 10/3.86 (had 16 last year)
Charlotte is at 73/8.3, after 97 last year, city on pace for ~96 this year. Geographic breakdowns:
West Charlotte 19/14.84 (finished with 30 last year)
East Charlotte 16/11.19 (had 21 last year)
North Charlotte 21/9.86 (28 last year)
South Charlotte 16/4.46 (18 last year)
Fayetteville is currently at 32/15.31 after a record 46 last year (though the city had higher murder rates in the 90s when the population was much smaller). Fayetteville on pace for ~42 by year end. Geographic breakdowns:
South Fayetteville 9/18.75 (up from 8 last year)
North Fayetteville 8/14.29 (had 15 last year)
West Fayetteville 13/14.13 (had 18 last year)
Southern District which includes Sowebo and Carrollton Ridge (where there was like 10 homicides in a month) along with long struggling areas like Cherry Hill and Brooklyn (the section within city limit) is highest with 46, even though there are only 2 homicides in that "peninsula" where the like of Federal Hill/Locust Point is located.
Ultimately there are high homicide rate all over the city limit, except Central District (basically Downtown + Midtown) along with Northern District, which is by far the "whitest" district in Baltimore including old money neighborhood like Homewood and Roland Park alongside relatively gentrified areas like Hampden. That being said downtown area has other problems like homelessness...
Changing Gary,Indiana's murders this year so far from 51 to 52 at least reported so far. Turns out that within 24 hours between Sun-Monday, there were actually 4 people murdered around the city.
SE/ NE/ SW across the river (ward 7+8) 97/ 145k rate 66.89
Ward 8 SE- 58/77.5k. Rate 75.32
Ward 7 NE- 17/ 35k rate 48.57
Across the Anacostia River DC is geographically separate from NW, monuments,, tourist.
The 8 murders in SW is basically 2 neighborhoods in ward 8 across the river. No murders by the waterfront.
So I guess thus far Jackson, MS remains the most violent larger or mid-sized U.S. city on a per capita basis?
Also, I don't think it's helpful to compare homicide numbers presently to early-90's homicide numbers unless you are using per capita as your metric due to population shifts during this timeframe. For example, let's say Phoenix had 100 homicides in 1990. At that time let's say it's population was 800,000. Now let's say Phoenix has 140 homicides so far in 2022, and let's say Phoenix has a 2022 population of 1,600,000. Is 140 in a population of 1,600,000 really more violent than 100 homicides in a population of 800,000? No. It's actually safer overall presently than in the early-90's. Conversely for a city like Pittsburgh, which has experienced a population freefall since 1990, if our present annual homicide numbers are somewhat near the early-1990's numbers but not quite as high we might be MORE violent presently than back then when we had a much higher population.
I always assumed the West and South side of Chicago to be about equally dangerous. But according to those numbers the South side is actually much more dangerous.
Both are very similar when adjusted to their respective populations.
West (about 471k)- 29.2
South (1.062m)- 30.2
Granted, a lot of what I included into the west side stats are socially considered to be more northwest (Wicker Park Ukrainian Village) or southwest ( Little Village, Pilsen), and what the average person thinks of the west side only consist of the very high crime and predominately black parts and Humboldt Park depending on the section. Last year, the 11th district(Garfield Park, parts of North Lawndale, Austin, and Humboldt Park) with a population of about 75k within six square miles saw 105 murders, which account for half or more of the total homicides that occurred on the west side. A lot of the murders there were driven by the drug market, which sets it apart from murders conspired on the south side, which seems to see more spontaneous acts of violence, which can give the perception of it being more dangerous.
Both are very similar when adjusted to their respective populations.
West (about 471k)- 29.2
South (1.062m)- 30.2
Granted, a lot of what I included into the west side stats are socially considered to be more northwest (Wicker Park Ukrainian Village) or southwest ( Little Village, Pilsen), and what the average person thinks of the west side only consist of the very high crime and predominately black parts and Humboldt Park depending on the section. Last year, the 11th district(Garfield Park, parts of North Lawndale, Austin, and Humboldt Park) with a population of about 75k within six square miles saw 105 murders, which account for half or more of the total homicides that occurred on the west side. A lot of the murders there were driven by the drug market, which sets it apart from murders conspired on the south side, which seems to see more spontaneous acts of violence, which can give the perception of it being more dangerous.
That 11th district would be similar to North STL at 80k had 108 in 21, 143 in '20, 119 in '19, and 109 in '18. As of Oct 5th were at 89 in 2022. Probably one of the worst areas in the country.
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