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Portland and Burlington don't really work here because they're not major metros, but they've got better beer than just about every major city in the US. Heck, Waterbury VT (population 5000) has better beer than two or three of the cities on your list.
New York belongs at or near the top of the list not because of the breweries that exist within the city (which are pretty good), but because of the actual beers you have access to at a typical beer bar/restaurant or store.
I'm pretty sure the NYC is the very lowest ranking city in breweries per capita. So while I think NYC can win most every thread on this forum, this isn't one of them.
I'm pretty sure the NYC is the very lowest ranking city in breweries per capita. So while I think NYC can win most every thread on this forum, this isn't one of them.
Sure, though that's why I qualified my statement.
You have better access to great beer in NYC than you do in almost every other major city in the US, though not all of it is produced at breweries within the five boroughs.
The Worcester, MA metro packs a punch for a smaller one. Tree House, Wormtown, Greater Good, Wachusett, and River Styx are all pretty great. The only certified Trappist beer in the US is brewed in Spencer.
Worcester also has what's probably the best beer bar in all of Massachusetts (Armsby Abbey).
I don't think they're anywhere near the top of the list nationally; but in the South, Atlanta and Jacksonville are up-and-comers with Birmingham deserving of honorable mention.
You have better access to great beer in NYC than you do in almost every other major city in the US, though not all of it is produced at breweries within the five boroughs.
I don't find this meaningful. You have access to great beer in literally every city in the US these days. I put much more stock into locally made craft beer than imported beer that can be found anywhere. I don't rate NYC highly in this area, I'd take population 170k Fort Collins, CO over NYC on this front without thinking twice.
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I have fun going to McMenamins in the PNW. Pubs, Pubs with music venues, Pubs with Inns, Pubs with hostel, Pubs with Inns and swimming pool, Some make beers/ales. At least one makes wine and spirits. Each a refurbished building, unique and distinguished art work.
I don't find this meaningful. You have access to great beer in literally every city in the US these days. I put much more stock into locally made craft beer than imported beer that can be found anywhere. I don't rate NYC highly in this area, I'd take population 170k Fort Collins, CO over NYC on this front without thinking twice.
You'd take the Fort Collins area over the NYC area?
Some of the best breweries in the country are found in New York City MSA, in my experience. Other Half is the obvious. But Finback, Two Roads, Grimm, Alewife, Interboro, Torch and Crown, Transmitter... All are top notch.
And I don't think you can underestimate southern CT and NJ when thinking about the craft beer the area has, though standalone neither really shine.
I don't find this meaningful. You have access to great beer in literally every city in the US these days. I put much more stock into locally made craft beer than imported beer that can be found anywhere. I don't rate NYC highly in this area, I'd take population 170k Fort Collins, CO over NYC on this front without thinking twice.
That might have been a reasonable take in 2007. It is completely wrong in 2021.
It's fine to admit that you're not a craft beer nerd.
You have better access to great beer in NYC than you do in almost every other major city in the US, though not all of it is produced at breweries within the five boroughs.
On tap and locally made? I don’t think that being able to buy beer from other places makes NYC a great beer city if that’s what you mean. A great beer city to me has a population that enjoys experiencing locally crafted beer. I don’t find that NYC has much of a beer culture, but maybe that’s just my circle.
On tap and locally made? I don’t think that being able to buy beer from other places makes NYC a great beer city if that’s what you mean. A great beer city to me has a population that enjoys experiencing locally crafted beer. I don’t find that NYC has much of a beer culture, but maybe that’s just my circle.
Other places meaning relatively local, i.e. from up in Vermont (Hill Farmstead, BBC, Foam, Alchemist, Frost, etc.) and from the suburbs and exurbs of NYC (Suarez, Equilibrium, Hudson Valley Brewery, Root and Branch, Obercreek, Fidens, etc.). When you add that to all of the good locally produced beer (Other Half, Grimm, Threes), the selection in NYC beer bars is tough to beat (though watch out for STEEP pricing in certain parts of Manhattan).
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