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Old 03-06-2022, 03:01 PM
 
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You're missing the point. It's the #5 city in terms of municipal unit. But "city" in a larger sense (functionally, economically, etc.) is more like the whole metro, UA, or blotch seen from the air. Phoenix is down the list in all of those.


If Philly's city limits were re-drawn outward a few miles, would anything change on the ground other than the logos on the DOT trucks? Not most things.
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Old 03-07-2022, 05:22 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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So how does Chicago do it. In da middle of the pack of fast growing cities.... when Chicago is called stagnant and losing people with what was a surprise 2% growth for the whole past decade. Still adding even office space and sales in a downtown market finally clawing out of its slump.

Even beating a Houston being claimed to overtake it in city population next few years. Chicago is not a speculative over-building city whatsoever either. Covid hit her hard too.

It surprises me the new office space going up in da West Loop next to the business core and residential. A city claimed lossing people, yet building new office space even residential to be on list with fast growing cities.

* Glad to see Philadelphia also moving up also in this highly Southern and Western city list of those with most building and sales. Its time has come too.

* Also, Is the Bay area using a region as a whole CSA? Meaning with SJ and all Silicon Valley?

* DC, is that with Baltimore metro to? Adds to numbers than other cities get no boost from most likely not counting a full region?

Stats are great. Just some cities get a huge boost by using a regional count larger than a metro?

* Chicago beating a Manhattan+Brooklyn for office sales 2021... though we know NYC was hit hard too for Covid.

* Beating a Houston not shut-down arguably as severely, being in Texas vs our Northern and Western cities. How can Chicago beat that market that is among the fastest growing metros in the Nation?

* Another is Chicago just below LA the beast LA is for 2021. Chicago still hit hard as them cities shut down more than our sunbelt ones, but for Cali.
My in-laws are selling their condo at a loss in Chicago. It's 46 floors above The Mag Mile with lake views and they bought in 1995.
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Old 03-07-2022, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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You're missing the point. It's the #5 city in terms of municipal unit. But "city" in a larger sense (functionally, economically, etc.) is more like the whole metro, UA, or blotch seen from the air. Phoenix is down the list in all of those.


If Philly's city limits were re-drawn outward a few miles, would anything change on the ground other than the logos on the DOT trucks? Not most things.
Some posters on CD have a weird love/hate thing going on with Phoenix.
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Old 03-07-2022, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Hudson County, New Jersey
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Some posters on CD have a weird love/hate thing going on with Phoenix.
Im one. I love Phoenix because I found it cool and just nice to be in/look at. I liked the hiking.

Ut then as an urban planner, im like ew its car centric.

I could live in PHX.
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Old 03-07-2022, 09:21 AM
 
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Some posters on CD have a weird love/hate thing going on with Phoenix.

Who's posted anything about love or hate? The discussion is about facts.
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Old 03-07-2022, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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Who's posted anything about love or hate? The discussion is about facts.
Sorry that wasn't meant to be a reply to your post. But since you asked, the poster above you. I wasn't speaking specifically about this thread, but you know it exists.
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Old 03-07-2022, 09:45 AM
 
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Oh, got it.


I'm sure there's a love/hate thing going on. Phoenix is #1 in its type, so that comes with the territory.
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