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View Poll Results: Most worldly/sophisticated burbs
Atlanta 6 15.38%
Phoenix 2 5.13%
Miami 20 51.28%
Denver 0 0%
Detroit 11 28.21%
Voters: 39. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-08-2022, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I’m going with Atlanta. Buckhead and the NE suburbs are tough to match.

I’m not sure why Miami is getting so many votes. It’s got great areas, but great suburbs? Not so much. Sure, Palm Beach County has nice suburban areas between Jupiter and Boca but they’re not really Miami suburbs in the usual sense of it. Realistically, how many people from Jupiter are commuting to downtown Miami for work?
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Old 03-08-2022, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Northern United States
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I think this listing is just weird. Like what are we counting for suburbs vs none suburbs?

On the miami vs. Detroit thing, I guess, for me personally, I associate sophistication with college education and maybe that is a classist way of thinking but it still is a little important. Wayne County MI has around 22 034,3!5 being college graduates compared to Miami-Dade which has 26.9 percent college grads. And palm beach has 33.6%, and boward has 30.8 percent. Martin has 31.6%. Macomb county, MI has 23.3 percent college graduates but Oakland County has 44.4% in college grads, so I believe overall, Detroit has about 32.4 percent of adult residents having college degrees while Miami’s metro has a similar amount, however, when you include Washtenaw County, which has Ann Arbor, which though it’s in the CSA, it is physically connected to metro Detroit, that county has college graduation rate of 52.6%. So if you counted Ann Arbor as apart of metro Detroit, I would say metro Detroit is among the most sophisticated and goes beyond Miami, but if you didn’t, I’d probably call it a tie between metro Detroit and metro Miami.
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Old 03-08-2022, 09:27 PM
 
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Detroit.
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Old 03-08-2022, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Because many on CD think “reported” W-2 median income is the only measure of any area’s wealth.
Well, that is the most widely accepted stat on the subject but I understand your points as well.
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Old 03-08-2022, 09:57 PM
 
Location: East Bay, San Francisco Bay Area
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Miami
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Old 03-08-2022, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I think Miami is definitely the magnet for worldly super duper rich people, and it's amenties match the needs of that demographic group far more than the other areas, so I voted for Miami.

But they all have large wealthy suburban belts. Atlanta and Detroit have very well known established suburban areas, but Phoenix and Denver do as well. Scottsdale is very well known, but far fewer people are aware of the massive wealth belt around Denver's South and SW suburban area AND NW area. It's very impressive.
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Old 03-09-2022, 07:33 AM
 
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Detroit: consider the Grosse Pointes, Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills, West Bloomfield, Royal Oak, Huntington Woods.....
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Old 03-09-2022, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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Agreed…median income/wages is the applicable economic measurement in most other cities; Miami, and it’s suburbs, is an outlier where many come to spend, vs earn, their wealth earned elsewhere….think of the MLB analogy: home grown, minor league built team (most other cities) vs one built via importing free agents.

As for another comment by a different poster re: sophistication, many of the wealthy transplants (and some home grown locals) patronize the arts and other cultural institutions here in Miami. Art Basel is but one example and as sophisticated an event as one will find anywhere. It’s not exclusively clubbing and hedonism here.

BTW, Coral Gables (and all its enclaves such as Cocoplum, Gables Estates, Tahiti Beach, Gables by the Sea, etc) Key Biscayne, Pinecrest, Ponce-Davis, Palmetto (where Jeff Bezos graduated high school) are considered suburbs of Miami. Plenty of nice suburbs within Miami Dade.

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Well, that is the most widely accepted stat on the subject but I understand your points as well.

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