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Not really. NYC can be walled off, and Miami can't. Water percolates from below. Miami's only long-term solution might be putting houses on stilts and rebuilding most of the rest.
Not to mention most of NYC is pretty far above sea level.
In many cases a meter of sea level rise would flood like 2-3 blocks.
I always wonder will there ever be a city in the states that will take over NYC not only in city population but metro
NYC itself (city proper) experienced meaningful population growth during the 2020 Census - basically grew over 600K people with an already dense footprint.
(As someone who grew up between Raleigh and Durham, I'm firmly on the pro-CSA side.)
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4) Asian immigration seems to be overwhelmingly driven by just two countries: China and India.
I mean, both countries have ~1.4 billion residents back home, 5X+ as many as the next most populous non-US country (Indonesia) and indeed, 4X as many as the USA. So of course they would send many more emigrants than elsewhere.
I always wonder will there ever be a city in the states that will take over NYC not only in city population but metro
Usually, such rearrangement happens less because the bigger city is shrinking than because the smaller city grows much faster. (See above with Chicago vs. DC, or historically NYC vs. Philadelphia or LA.) With dampened population growth nationally, I don't see a lot of large-scale league-table rearranging in the early 21st century.
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Additionally the Bay Area and DFW both have tons of economic activity and amenities between the two cities, whereas there isn't much of note between DC and Baltimore. (I guess there is College Park? But that's on the DC metro system).
On the "Baltimore" side in Anne Arundel and Howard counties, there's BWI, Fort Meade (the second-largest Army post by employment), and Columbia (a planned town with ~60K jobs). Maryland has always been relatively careful about land preservation, and the federal government plunked some giant reservations down in Central Maryland long ago. So the Patuxent River corridor hasn't been paved over, but economic linkages extend past the US-1 corridor in Laurel. (Indeed, the sprawl also touches along US 301 to the southeast of the Patuxent wildlife refuge.) Keep in mind that the two central cities' corners are 27 miles apart, much greater than the 11 miles between D & F-W.
SF & SJ fused relatively seamlessly because their respective favored quarters pretty much pointed towards one another, and the result was Silicon Valley. That hasn't been the case for other such "twin cities."
Granted, 7 feet is a heck of a lot of sea level rise, but you can play with the level in this map viewer.
Fair 7 feet is a lot. New Jersey looks pretty bad in that picture, and it looks like Miami's water problems are coming in from inland, Everglades and swamps. I know I've seen these I kind of maps about my hometown of Boston and it's not pretty for Boston as much of the city is built on fill.
Philadelphia's the next one Atlanta's about to pass soon. That one's 6.2 million, with a slower growth rate than Atlanta.
Philly is done being a Top 10 MSA and CSA and a lot of that has a lot to do with the economic, financial, and the logistical atmosphere of that city in comparison to other American cities. It's done as a Top 10 MSA and CSA.
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The sun belt is where most of the growth is. Dallas and Houston are projected to hit 10 million each in the 2030's, and will both pass Chicago's population. Atlanta will be up there close to the top 5. Will all depend on how growth rates still look in the 2030's.
I don't think Atlanta will be in the Top 5 and if so, then that means that Altanta will be up there with NYC, LA, Wash-Balt, Bay Area, and Chicago, and that's a very tough plateau to crack, but Top 10, most definitely, especially with it's local economy booming and a lot of people moving to Metro Atlanta.
Also, I don't see Dallas and Houston hitting 10 million, as that figure is laughable by the 2030s. I can foresee Miami growing at a faster rate, especially if it's able to establish itself as the crypto capital of America as well as a financial and economic center in the same vein as NYC and Chicago and even a high-tech center. It all depends on those factors. Dallas is mainly real estate and high tech while Houston is mainly related to energy.
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It was inevitable that Atlanta would surpass Miami since it's not limited by geography in the way that Miami is. There's still plenty of room for the Atlanta metro to run in all directions.
It's remarkable but it's just not sustainable as Atlanta doesn't have a commuter rail system that can connect to those far flung communities that are about over an hour away from Atlanta. if Atlanta and the state of GA can't come to terms towards building a commuter rail system that radiates out of Atlanta and I'm not just talking about MARTA, then it's practically useless to move from any American city to and locale 30 minutes to an hour and sit in traffic for over an hour just to be close to Atlanta.
With that mindset, I'd rather live in NYC, Chicago, or DC where's there's ample choices in transportation than Atlanta, where there's only MARTA and outside of Atlanta, there's no commuter rail system and you're only reliant by the automobile. Atlanta is going to have problems in the future if it can't invest in a commuter rail system, which Miami already has plus a high rail system. Besides, because Atlanta doesn't have as much int'l ties the way Miami has, eventually Miami is going to grow at a more rapid rate than Atlanta. It is what it is.
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