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I feel like this is a rehashing of the big 5. Most seem to agree that NYC, LA, Chicago, the Bay Area and DC are the most important cities in America. So I guess this is just trying to pick number 4.
More like a rehashing of the tier based list threads that has been on here
Montclair, you know that what you just wrote isnt remotely accurate. I get the DC/SF rivalry in this topic but the level of over compensation with that statement is just nuts.
Kind of out of character as he's usually pretty reasonable and not a homer.
As you repeat your same posts, without replying to questions. I'll repeat my same responses.
"Failing to realize how this helps your argument, when DC-Balt CSA is still top 5 after taking it's important industry away?
Please run the same numbers taking "tech" away from the Bay Area, and let's see where it falls."
DC's economy doesn't stop at the "private industry" which is what separates it from SF. There's no relevant government presence in SF. DC has both private and public. NY CSA has as much public industry dollars as DC/Baltimore. +2 for DC and it's surrounding environs.
Montclair, you know that what you just wrote isnt remotely accurate. I get the DC/SF rivalry in this topic but the level of over compensation with that statement is just nuts.
He was riffing on my example, which I stand by. DC is a capital by design rather than a capital by appointment. It’s disingenuous to compare DC to a city like London just because both are national capitals.
DC is impressive, but it isn’t inherently impressive just because the seat of government is there.
Yeah if San Francisco gets to tout the whole Bay Area, then DC counts it's entire surroundings as well. Which by 2021 populations are:
1. New York
2. Los Angeles
3. Washington-Baltimore
4. Chicago
5. San Francisco/San Jose
Boston, DFW, Houston and so on.
I think it's fair to say the Bay Area is more cohesive than DCB which is really two MSAs that overlap a little in their suburbs. The Bay area hugs the narrow strip of developable land between the bay and the high hills with a contiguous corridor of dense small lot suburbia with tons of walkable downtowns pretty much the whole way from SF to SJ. Perhaps the rolling topography and stream valleys of MD has opposite effect decentralizing development into lots of disconnected cul-de-sacs and strip mall type suburbia.
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DC doesn’t need Baltimore to make a claim for number 4 and if one must say DC, don’t exclude Baltimore.
The last 10 pages I've been asking people to simply point out. Within these cities themselves. Not the metro, or CSA. What institutions or things about the city makes them top 3,4,5 or whatever. I've laid out multiple points for DC, and have heard nothing but CSA topics for San Francisco. I digress.
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I think it's fair to say the Bay Area is more cohesive than DCB which is really two MSAs that overlap a little in their suburbs. The Bay area hugs the narrow strip of developable land between the bay and the high hills with a contiguous corridor of dense small lot suburbia with tons of walkable downtowns pretty much the whole way from SF to SJ. Perhaps the rolling topography and stream valleys of MD has opposite effect decentralizing development into lots of disconnected cul-de-sacs and strip mall type suburbia.
Simple facts:
San Jose and San Francisco are two metro areas, and one CSA.
DC and Baltimore are two metro areas, and one CSA.
Even combining SF and SJ MSA's alone, they are roughly the same population as DC MSA alone.
Washington-Baltimore has a larger population than San Francisco/San Jose.
I hear what you're saying but this is just the reality. If you combine one group, you combine both.
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