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Old 05-09-2022, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Nothing that other sunbelt cities haven't done or aren't doing.
It's a developing "Midtown."
All major sunbelt cities have this going on.
It's a Midtown that's had a major university located in the middle of it since the late 19th century (Vanderbilt). If anything, yes, growth has turbocharged a bit in the last few years, but Midtown Nashville has always been one of the most educated neighborhoods in Nashville. A bit unique in this regard.

Nashville's historical character is vastly underestimated on this site.
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Old 05-09-2022, 05:15 PM
 
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This isn't about any particular city or the South at all...but I'm shocked at how little retail is near some major universities. Shouldn't any campus over 20,000 students have a pretty substantial business district?
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Old 05-09-2022, 05:29 PM
 
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Nothing that other sunbelt cities haven't done or aren't doing.
It's a developing "Midtown."
All major sunbelt cities have this going on.
Exactly...this is why I stopped commenting on this post. Man no disrespect but some people act like Nashville and Austin trumps every other development going on in every other major city in the south and the thing is that it is quite common. It's just that it's now time for Nashville and Austin to have their time in the sun. No disrespect to those cities or their residents....
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Old 05-09-2022, 05:41 PM
 
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This isn't about any particular city or the South at all...but I'm shocked at how little retail is near some major universities. Shouldn't any campus over 20,000 students have a pretty substantial business district?
That's why Target would love Vanderbilt. A lot of it depends on the city and population off campus. Usually when Target shows up, other retailers follow.
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Old 05-09-2022, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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I know.

I'm waiting for that announcement like Ponce City Market, Belt Line or some type of City Target. I know Target would love Vanderbilt students and Vanderbilt would love them. Nothing planned.
The Reed District is a major planned development in midtown, closer to where I-40 and downtown/midtown meet. An urban Target could go in there, as well as a Trader Joe's.

Scheduled to start next year--

https://www.nashvillepost.com/busine...7949d060a.html

Nashville is a popular "brand" nationwide, and a red hot city with booming growth and development. It's only a matter of time before more and more amenities pour into midtown, like they are in downtown.

I think midtown will get an urban Target, and also downtown, eventually. Both areas are primed for it and could support both, I think. There's a Whole Foods and a Publix downtown, and TJ's and Target should come next.
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Old 05-09-2022, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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This isn't about any particular city or the South at all...but I'm shocked at how little retail is near some major universities. Shouldn't any campus over 20,000 students have a pretty substantial business district?
It's odd, truly. Some universities are near rougher areas in some cities, too.

So I think it just depends on how well the city zones its areas around the university and how much of a draw those cities/universities are to retailers.

Some cities are incredible at it, others, not at all.
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Old 05-09-2022, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
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It's odd, truly. Some universities are near rougher areas in some cities, too.

So I think it just depends on how well the city zones its areas around the university and how much of a draw those cities/universities are to retailers.

Some cities are incredible at it, others, not at all.
I think this sums it up quite a bit. It's that, or how a lot of universities are in heavily suburban areas.

As much as I LOVE Atlanta, I have always found it odd that Georgia State does not have any major retail near it. But then... Probably has to do with it being too close to some rough parts. Does anyone know what's up with Underground? Last time I was there, it looked haunted.


Georgia Tech has Atlantic Station... Perhaps Vanderbilt could benefit from something similar. On a smaller scale, of course, but a similar concept.
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Old 05-09-2022, 07:13 PM
 
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College students can't afford much, but they do eat. And people work at colleges. If there are 20,000 students and 10,000 employees, there should be a district with a few thousand apartments, 20-30 takeout placess / bars / coffee shops / restaurants, and some basic services at minimum. A full-size Target is more of a downtown or mall thing.
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Old 05-09-2022, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Flawduh
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College students can't afford much, but they do eat. And people work at colleges. If there are 20,000 students and 10,000 employees, there should be a district with a few thousand apartments, 20-30 takeout placess / bars / coffee shops / restaurants, and some basic services at minimum. A full-size Target is more of a downtown or mall thing.
I'm pretty sure Vanderbilt's students aren't coming in poor.
And like you said, students need to work.

It doesn't have to be a mall per say, but I like these types of plazas:

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.5156...7i16384!8i8192

Sort of a small version of Atlantic Station. Students would eat up the housing really fast, and they'd fill in the jobs at these establishments.
Target does build some smaller stores. Doesn't have to be a full-scaled Super Target.

I was very grateful for the mall right across the street from the school I attended.
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Old 05-09-2022, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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College students can't afford much, but they do eat. And people work at colleges. If there are 20,000 students and 10,000 employees, there should be a district with a few thousand apartments, 20-30 takeout placess / bars / coffee shops / restaurants, and some basic services at minimum. A full-size Target is more of a downtown or mall thing.
+1 I agree with this comment.

It's more than just the college students at Vanderbilt (one of the largest recipients of NIH dollars). Midtown Nashville is a big medical hub, along with a historical focal point for music industry recording as well. Lastly, it's the most cosmopolitan part of the city by far and really helped with the "It" city status Nashville now has because it helped create the generally welcoming culture that the visitors are now finding out about.
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