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Old 09-24-2022, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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It's sad that far right people and conservative media actually want liberal cities & states to fail, it goes beyond complaints about leadership. And to your point, crime and drugs don't stop at party lines.

And what I find ironic is that most big liberal cities and states are the economic drivers in this country. What exactly does West Virginia contribute?
Can't rep you again, but 100% accurate.

There's a lot to complain about with leadership in many big cities--no questions there.

But when it comes from right-wingers, it's never in good faith and from a sentiment of "wanting the best."

Crime in cities like Baltimore, Philadelphia, and Chicago has also been going on for decades at a unacceptable level. But only during election season do we hear feigned concern for crime rates from Republicans. Crime that disproportionately impacts urban poor, black neighborhoods that are light years away from the true GOP constituency.

It's all about fear-mongering for suburban votes and part of ideological warfare to discredit any place that doesn't drink the MAGA koolaid.
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Old 09-24-2022, 01:33 PM
 
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Can't rep you again, but 100% accurate.

There's a lot to complain about with leadership in many big cities--no questions there.

But when it comes from right-wingers, it's never in good faith and from a sentiment of "wanting the best."

Crime in cities like Baltimore, Philadelphia, and Chicago has also been going on for decades at a unacceptable level. But only during election season do we hear feigned concern for crime rates from Republicans. Crime that disproportionately impacts urban poor, black neighborhoods that are light years away from the true GOP constituency.

It's all about fear-mongering for suburban votes and part of ideological warfare to discredit any place that doesn't drink the MAGA koolaid.
I'm located in Chicago. There have been daily ads shown on local TV emphasizing the violent crime here. These ads are designed to bolster the campaign of Darren Bailey. He's the Republican gubernatorial candidate in Illinois.

Bailey's campaign is not behind these ads. They are funded by a Republican action committee.

The ads feature several clips of violent incidents, including the murder of a married couple, which happened in Chicago.

Bailey has so far refused to denounce these ads. or to distance himself from their messages.

The aunt of the man who was murdered along with his wife stated: "Please stop using our pain and suffering for votes."

I concur.
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Old 09-24-2022, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Despite that there's more than 3 months left in the year, the Wall Street Journal and NY Post have recently published stories painting New Orleans as the "Murder Capital" of 2022. I can't seem to recall a city given that dubious distinction in such a premature fashion.
I would expect that premature title going to Jackson, MS.

Most of the conversation from the perspective of per capitas, geographic distribution, & other socioeconomic factors is spot on.
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Old 09-25-2022, 07:26 AM
 
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The aunt of the man who was murdered along with his wife stated: "Please stop using our pain and suffering for votes."
That is so low class for them to torture the family like that.
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Old 09-25-2022, 11:00 AM
 
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This question comes up from time to time and for whatever reason, nobody wants to hear from actual residents of the area and would instead prefer to come up with wild theories. DC is simply not as violent as it used to be in the 90s when it created the nickname "Murder Capital". The other reason is that the city is not a hip hop hotbed despite its massive Black population and as such doesnt have its street activities blasted over the airwaves like other cities.
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Old 09-26-2022, 10:21 AM
 
Location: the future
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This question comes up from time to time and for whatever reason, nobody wants to hear from actual residents of the area and would instead prefer to come up with wild theories. DC is simply not as violent as it used to be in the 90s when it created the nickname "Murder Capital". The other reason is that the city is not a hip hop hotbed despite its massive Black population and as such doesnt have its street activities blasted over the airwaves like other cities.
True indeed being a "rapper" was considered corny for a long time. Also things that happen aren't celebrated like other cities who boost their crime stats. It seems everybody in Chicago knows who what when where and how about everything going on in the streets.
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Old 09-26-2022, 10:26 AM
 
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For those of you saying Chicago is safe, I think you haven't been keeping up with the news over the past 1-2 years.

The crime was always kept on the south side but now it has migrated to the nicer parts of the city. Downtown, River North, Old Town, Streeterville, these areas are no longer safe. There are drive by shootings at outdoor restaurants, people getting mugged and killed in Lincoln park, gunshot noises are commonplace now, etc.

If we're talking about Chicago prepandemic than absolutely it was safe in the northside but now, not even close. Everyone I've talked to says it's bad.
Not saying there isn't some truth to this statement. But this seems like an extreme and alarmist take. The chances of someone falling victim to a random act of violence in the north side is still quite low.
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Old 09-26-2022, 04:02 PM
 
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Crime exists everywhere, it's a fact of life, the only difference is now with social media and TV news we're noticing it a lot more and our fears are being used for profit. Why tell people good things about a community when you can tell them bad things instead and keep them scared? It makes more money, gets more clicks. one set of the masses mentally enslaved to fear and the other set in perpetual poverty, creating a cycle of never ending negativity. It's all about the $$$ with no real solutions to the problem. In the end, we all lose.
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Old 09-27-2022, 01:11 PM
 
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DC is simply not as violent as it used to be in the 90s when it created the nickname "Murder Capital". The other reason is that the city is not a hip hop hotbed despite its massive Black population and as such doesnt have its street activities blasted over the airwaves like other cities.
Strongly disagree with this take.

1. Hip hop is currently the most popular music genre for Americans born after 1981 (Millenials + Gen Z). Its popularity is across all racial groups and income levels. To attempt to correlate a city's crime rates to hip hop's presence wouldn't work out.

2. NYC is literally the birthplace of hip hop and continues to be an epicenter for a variety of rap genres, but it has low crime rates.

3. The DC-MD-NoVA market has an abundance of rap music playing at any given time. There are also plenty of nightclubs, strip clubs, and lounges that blast rap music. If you were to randomly stop people with headphones in the street and survey what are they listening to, you'll find a large percentage of them are blasting rap in their ears. Just because you don't encounter it in your personal life, doesn't mean it isn't huge.

4. As far as the Top 50 MSAs go, the DC metro area does have an above-average violent crime rate. Crime might not feel like a problem in Logan Circle or Ballston or Bethesda, but it's certainly a problem in chunks of PG County and in the other less affluent quadrants of the District. DC's crime is just more heavily concentrated in a handful of challenging zip codes than other peer cities.
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Old 09-28-2022, 11:33 AM
 
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Philly is grimey as hell compared to Chicago and nevermind DC on a street level.

All it takes is news footage of a place like this for suburbanites to nope out:

https://goo.gl/maps/Wzbybar76RKKX4Lo9
nevermind this:
https://goo.gl/maps/DybiHQ4o3yepGRzbA

Chicago has abandoned streets like above but for the most part they are more like this:

https://goo.gl/maps/P4AnkzBtym2LC8NF7

totally different feel though still disconcerting.. and still chicago has a reputation aswell that's more based on the raw numbers, the music and the national press around their local gang scene which has been a factor for years with ppl like DJ Akademiks and many others making a career out of publicizing it

DC has none of that press around it and the city is very clean in the areas tourists/suburbanites will visit. Not necessarily more safe than downtown Chicago or center city but it can feel that way
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