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Old 04-15-2023, 09:52 AM
 
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Homicides are down in St. Louis, with 39 YTD.

In KC, where the state is in control of KCPD, homicides are at an all time high with 50 YTD.

The state of Missouri is likely going to take over control of STLMPD, but there is something to be said about this action being ineffective in reducing violent crime.
The state of Missouri isn't interested in reducing crime. That is obvious by them overlooking cities that are successful in maintaining low crime and adopting their policies. Its all about control. St. Louis does have a crime reduction plan in place that does include pay increase for officers. The state has nothing in writing other than officers pay increase. Keep in mind the FOP and NRA gives funding to many conservatives in Jefferson City.
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Old 04-15-2023, 12:37 PM
 
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San Francisco 10, no homicides since the Apr 4 killing of tech exec Bob Lee, where the suspect was someone he knew
city-wide rate of 1.2/100k is running under last year's annual rate of 6.4 per 100k

San Jose 8, 0.9/100k, in line with last year's annual rate of 3.5/100k

Oakland 28, 6.7/100k, in line with last year's annual rate of 27.2/100k

LA 70, (1.8/100k), down from 95 this time last year, most crimes are down y/y in the city
The super low rate (not surprised) in SF is definitely showing how homicide rate is only a small part of overall QOL. If only things like car break in rate drops also...

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Atlanta is at 25 as of 4/8, just under a 50% reduction from last years total to the same date at 49.
Definitely a huge improvement.
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Old 04-15-2023, 09:18 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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The super low rate (not surprised) in SF is definitely showing how homicide rate is only a small part of overall QOL. If only things like car break in rate drops also...



Definitely a huge improvement.
Homicide is never a big issue in SF...petty crime, on the other hand, is really a nightmare...
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Old 04-15-2023, 10:07 PM
 
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It's been a crazy weekend in Chicago--16 murders in the last week, 27 in April so far, and 148 for the year. The first part of April was looking somewhat hopeful but the warm weather kind of took the cap off the toothpaste bottle.
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Old 04-16-2023, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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Homicide is never a big issue in SF...petty crime, on the other hand, is really a nightmare...
SF, Portland, Seattle, and Vancouver BC have super high larceny rates due to smash and grabs. Except for Portland the last couple years, they also have very low homicide rates. Interestingly, larceny rates in Baltimore, Cleveland, New Orleans and some (but not all) high homicide cities aren't that high. Oakland unfortunately gets both - high homicide + high larceny.
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Old 04-16-2023, 11:02 AM
 
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Baltimore hits 80 (83 total, but 3 subtracted). A 12-yo at Westport Homes and another man being the 79th and 80th homicide victim.

Homicides are definitely way up, kind of as "expected", as the weather warms.

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SF, Portland, Seattle, and Vancouver BC have super high larceny rates due to smash and grabs. Except for Portland the last couple years, they also have very low homicide rates. Interestingly, larceny rates in Baltimore, Cleveland, New Orleans and some (but not all) high homicide cities aren't that high. Oakland unfortunately gets both - high homicide + high larceny.
Haven't check the armed robbery rate. For the insanely high homicide rate in Baltimore, it doesn't seems like armed robbery rate is actually THAT high, i.e. most of the homicides are likely between people that know one another.
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Old 04-16-2023, 05:24 PM
 
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Baltimore hits 80 (83 total, but 3 subtracted). A 12-yo at Westport Homes and another man being the 79th and 80th homicide victim.

Homicides are definitely way up, kind of as "expected", as the weather warms.



Haven't check the armed robbery rate. For the insanely high homicide rate in Baltimore, it doesn't seems like armed robbery rate is actually THAT high, i.e. most of the homicides are likely between people that know one another.
What are those 3 subtracted Baltimore homicides?
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Old 04-16-2023, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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What are those 3 subtracted Baltimore homicides?
3 victims were shot outside Baltimore's administrative boundaries but because they died in UMD's shock trauma inside the city, they are included in total homicides. An additional 2 people were shot last year but died from gunshots wounds in early January and those were included as well.
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Old 04-16-2023, 06:43 PM
 
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SF, Portland, Seattle, and Vancouver BC have super high larceny rates due to smash and grabs. Except for Portland the last couple years, they also have very low homicide rates. Interestingly, larceny rates in Baltimore, Cleveland, New Orleans and some (but not all) high homicide cities aren't that high. Oakland unfortunately gets both - high homicide + high larceny.
There is a non-zero chance that lower non-homicide crimes in really high homicide rate cities simply don’t report crimes.

Like an extreme example is a lot of 911 calls in really high end suburbs are people like letting their truck idle in the winter while running in for coffee or not picking up their dog poop or something super trivial that would not be a call in a city.

Similarly a bar fight in like Media PA is far more likely to end up someone pressing charges than one in North Philly
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Old 04-16-2023, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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There is a non-zero chance that lower non-homicide crimes in really high homicide rate cities simply don’t report crimes.
That's a fair point. But there is zero chance I'll park my car in the street around the Marina in SF, in spite of being surrounded by high end restaurants and $3 million+ homes.

EDITED: So I looked up Scottsdale, AZ, and it has a slightly higher larceny rate than Boston, but obviously much lower violent crime. Data would support what you're saying.

Last edited by TheseGoTo11; 04-16-2023 at 11:48 PM..
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