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Old 04-17-2023, 10:50 AM
 
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There is a non-zero chance that lower non-homicide crimes in really high homicide rate cities simply don’t report crimes.

Like an extreme example is a lot of 911 calls in really high end suburbs are people like letting their truck idle in the winter while running in for coffee or not picking up their dog poop or something super trivial that would not be a call in a city.

Similarly a bar fight in like Media PA is far more likely to end up someone pressing charges than one in North Philly
I think it's two-fold. One, absolutely, low-priority crimes (property theft/larceny/etc) are likely much less likely to get reported in high violent crime cities. I know for a fact that Cleveland police won't even respond to non-violent calls in certain areas due to a backlog of higher priority calls. Then even if they do respond (usually hours to even a day after the incident), unless it's something like a car theft where there is a chance whatever is stolen could be recovered, police aren't filing reports. Most people know that so they don't even bother calling in unless it's something violent (murder/armed robbery/domestic dispute ...maybe an assault) because that is where 90 percent of officers' priorities will be.

The other aspect is the lack of corporate/chain establishments in high-crime areas. Corporate retail places generally have policies where employees are not to engage with thieves and to just call police once the leave the store. The corner stores don't have those policies and all those guys are armed and will shoot, and most have an armed "employee" waiting in the back, so robbers/thieves have to weigh that risk/reward.

Plus, I know even some of the corporate stores in certain areas in Cleveland (and I'm sure it's the same way in Detroit, Baltimore, St. Louis, etc.) turn a blind eye to corporate policy and operate more like the corner stores. A friend of mine, who is a CPD officer, told me a story about getting a call from someone who said he was assaulted inside a retail store in a very high crime area. He watched the tape and he said the guy who was assaulted was trying to load his backpack up with items and a group of employees approached him, one punched the guy in the face and knocked him down and they started curb stomping him before he was able to limp out of the store and called police. Lol, my friend was like only thing I did was tell the guy that his advice for him was not to go back to that store.
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Old 04-17-2023, 12:04 PM
 
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Cincinnati has had a very quiet month of April so far and only has 14 homicides on the year.

The drop represents what will hopefully continue as an ongoing trend over the past few years.

2020: 94 (23 YTD)
2021: 94 (21 YTD)
2022: 78 (24 YTD)
2023: N/A (14 YTD)
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Old 04-17-2023, 02:37 PM
 
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Fort Worth is at 27. 2 of these are likely accidental, 3 are people who were injured in a previous year but died this year. 1 is officer involved.
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Old 04-18-2023, 07:38 AM
 
Location: the future
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DC- 65
Pgco- 28
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Old 04-18-2023, 12:50 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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NYC 113 - has been worse recently, maybe it's the extremely warm weather...
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Old 04-18-2023, 09:12 PM
 
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St. Paul is at 12 today. Two people shot dead in an apartment on the East Side early this morning.
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Old 04-18-2023, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Agg-Town, TX
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Dallas - 95
FW - 27
Arlington - 6
Denton - 5
Garland - 4 (might be 5)
19 cities with 1
North Texas region - 156
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Old 04-18-2023, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Houston - 96
Chicago - 163
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Old 04-19-2023, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Crime began to rise significantly across America around 2015 which was 5 years before the pandemic.
While I know what you mean, crime didn’t begin to rise during the pandemic. In fact crime has consistently decreased for 20-30 years straight. Violent crime however was much more stable and 2015 was probably closer to a low point and murder outright began to rise after 2015.

The decline in overall crime is so linear that by 2025 we will almost certainly have the lowest year of property crime in history of record and thus overall crime will be at the lowest ever. Our property crime rate is at 1900 per 100,000 and it was 1750 or so in the year 1960. There’s a chance the 50s had lower property crime but I doubt the 20s and 30s and early 40s do.
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Old 04-19-2023, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Houston - 96
Chicago - 163
The violence in Houston has been in some really nice areas this year but it looks like the actual low income neighborhoods are seeing some relative decrease compared to previous years. Hopefully we’ll be back under 300 and be under 200 again soon.
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