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Old 04-11-2023, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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The West is way too isolated to still have great demand like it used to. The East is much more populated and people usually move closer rather than farther. The old days are over.
Three post history to say this kind of nonsense?
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Old 04-12-2023, 09:28 AM
 
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Yeah, nonsense indeed. I've only read the end of the thread but wow.

One component: Proximity to Asia is kind of a big deal.
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Old 04-12-2023, 09:42 PM
 
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Definitely have thought of leaving California for Chicago, Philly or Texas. Even nova
Large portions of California are falling apart. The entire state is in a terminal decline.
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Old 04-12-2023, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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The West is way too isolated to still have great demand like it used to. The East is much more populated and people usually move closer rather than farther. The old days are over.
This isn't 1850. It's not a 2 month trip in a covered wagon from Denver to Chicago or a multi-day trip on a steam locomotive. Not everybody wants to be jammed into the crowded petri dish or deal with craptacular humidity.

In college I interviewed for a job in Westchester County, NY. The VP of the company lived in Princeton, NJ, but he only went home on the weekends because it took 2-3 hours to drive the 80 miles between the office and his house. F that. When we moved back to Colorado we crashed at my MIL's house northeast of Denver. My commute was similar, and I could do it in about an hour and 20 minutes.
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Old 04-12-2023, 10:14 PM
 
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This isn't 1850. It's not a 2 month trip in a covered wagon from Denver to Chicago or a multi-day trip on a steam locomotive. Not everybody wants to be jammed into the crowded petri dish or deal with craptacular humidity.

In college I interviewed for a job in Westchester County, NY. The VP of the company lived in Princeton, NJ, but he only went home on the weekends because it took 2-3 hours to drive the 80 miles between the office and his house. F that. When we moved back to Colorado we crashed at my MIL's house northeast of Denver. My commute was similar, and I could do it in about an hour and 20 minutes.
When I lived in Ohio, a major point that people would often tout was how centrally located it was. Now I live near Seattle, which people often say is very isolated.

Honestly, I've found that Seattle area has a better location in terms of proximity to other places, or at least places that I actually want to go. There's plenty to do in the PNW, but if I want to go elsewhere... Hawaii is closer, California is closer, Alaska is closer, my family in Phoenix is closer. The national parks of the West, Asia, Tahiti... all much closer.
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Old 04-17-2023, 03:54 AM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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When I lived in Ohio, a major point that people would often tout was how centrally located it was. Now I live near Seattle, which people often say is very isolated.

Honestly, I've found that Seattle area has a better location in terms of proximity to other places, or at least places that I actually want to go. There's plenty to do in the PNW, but if I want to go elsewhere... Hawaii is closer, California is closer, Alaska is closer, my family in Phoenix is closer. The national parks of the West, Asia, Tahiti... all much closer.
100%. Seattle is 2.5 hr drive to Vancouver BC and if you love Asian food, it feels a bit like being able to drive to Hong Kong. Hawaii is also as close as it gets. Heck, I've even done 4-day weekend trips to Tokyo with the kids. The national parks to the north, south, east, west are all closer. Even Banff, Jasper and Whistler aren't far. It's isolated from the imagination of many people living on the East Coast and the South, that's for sure. But the Midwest and also Denver felt way more isolated to me.
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Old 04-17-2023, 04:13 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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The west has the most expensive housing in the nation with 7 of the 8 most expensive housing by state. Higher mortgage rates have had a bigger effect on house prices in the West because housing prices are so high in comparison with the rest of the country. Massachusetts is the most expensive state not in the west and a few other northeast states are also expensive.

Cheapest are the south and Midwest.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...price-by-state
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Old 04-17-2023, 05:07 AM
 
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This isn't 1850. It's not a 2 month trip in a covered wagon from Denver to Chicago or a multi-day trip on a steam locomotive. Not everybody wants to be jammed into the crowded petri dish or deal with craptacular humidity.

In college I interviewed for a job in Westchester County, NY. The VP of the company lived in Princeton, NJ, but he only went home on the weekends because it took 2-3 hours to drive the 80 miles between the office and his house. F that. When we moved back to Colorado we crashed at my MIL's house northeast of Denver. My commute was similar, and I could do it in about an hour and 20 minutes.
At least you can take a train. I can point to lots of 80 mile drives in LA or the Bay Area that are more impossible than Princeton to Westchester. You’re complaining about getting to a job on the wrong side of the largest city in the US. That’s kind of ridiculous.
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Old 04-17-2023, 08:07 AM
 
Location: USA
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Well, the median home price in Greater Boston hit $900k last spring, with slight appreciation since then.

So, yes, anything under $700k outside of the more depressed cities around the metro would be considered affordable in Eastern Massachusetts. I mean, Waltham and Framingham are not very desirable places to live in the grand scheme of Massachusetts, and even in these areas (as listed above) you’re only getting an outdated cape or ranch.

In the blue chip suburbs, lots and tear downs go for $1M+ at this point.
Which is why growth in the metro is driven by births with domestic migration fleeing.

https://www.recenter.tamu.edu/data/p...ewton%2C_MA-NH

Median is closer to the $770,000.

https://www.bostonmagazine.com/prope...ce-chart-2021/
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Old 04-18-2023, 02:04 PM
 
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LOL...The West is not isolated,we just have more undeveloped land/rural areas,and nothing is far since we have Cars,Buses,Trains,Planes.
Yes the Old Days of using Wagons and Horses are over

The Demand is still high here in the West because of Location,Climate,Opportunities and there is still an enormous amount of Land for Development and Economic Growth.

Also the West has a lot of Great Cities/Towns and is the Land of Innovation,and also the West created The Major Themed Amusement Parks(Disneyland,Universal Studios),but also we have Great America,Six Flags,Knotts Berry Farm,Legoland,SeaWorld,Etc.

The West also faces East Asia,which has many wonderful countries and probably the fastest growing economies in the World.

The West also has Hawaii and Las Vegas,which has no equivalent anywhere on the East Coast.

The West also has Most of the National Parks and Preserved Land as well

Also alot of trends starts in the West then spreads around the Country.

The East is more populated,because that's where all the early immigrants and cities were first built.

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