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Old 09-12-2023, 05:11 PM
 
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No one in DFW, Charlotte, or Houston matched that?
Yeaaaah these cities definitely have African Americans that make $250,000...this is off...
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Old 09-12-2023, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Yeaaaah these cities definitely have African Americans that make $250,000...this is off...
It's not off. I just didn't have the time to make a complete list.
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Old 09-12-2023, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Counties by Black Households Earning $200,000+, 2021
3,000+ Households

Prince George's, MD 27,182
Los Angeles, CA 19,174
Cook, IL 17,387
Kings, NY 15,563
Harris, TX 11,705
Queens, NY 11,020
Fulton, GA 10,792
Broward, FL 9,707
Nassau, NY 9,549
Washington, DC 9,309
Montgomery, MD 8,555
Suffolk, NY 7,038
Cobb, GA 6,750
Fairfax, VA 6,691
Dallas, TX 6,637
Alameda, CA 6,616
Baltimore, MD 6,280
Bronx, NY 5,850
Westchester, NY 5,702
Essex, NJ 5,668
Riverside, CA 5,601
DeKalb, GA 5,552
Anne Arundel, MD 5,417
Philadelphia, PA 5,349
Mecklenburg, NC 5,034
Wayne, MI 4,878
Prince William, VA 4,729
New York, NY 4,723
Gwinnett, GA 4,716
Fort Bend, TX 4,664
Shelby, TN 4,651
Collin, TX 4,632
Charles, MD 4,551
King, WA 4,533
Bergen, NJ 4,323
Miami-Dade, FL 4,266
Clark, NV 4,244
Maricopa, AZ 3,926
Middlesex, NJ 3,807
Travis, TX 3,807
Tarrant, TX 3,745
Denton, TX 3,675
Baltimore City, MD 3,564
Contra Costa, CA 3,553
Wake, NC 3,538
Suffolk, MA 3,511
Palm Beach, FL 3,499
Union, NJ 3,376
Orange, FL 3,338
Sacramento, CA 3,271
San Diego, CA 3,199
Oakland, MI 3,156
Orange, CA 3,132
Howard, MD 3,105
Middlesex, MA 3,017
Norfolk, MA 3,009
Having a a little bit of a hard time believing Clark Count NV is that high. Maybe it is just seems high- right behind Miami Dade Charles County MD and Bergen NJ?
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Old 09-13-2023, 11:13 AM
 
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I think the “black experience†aspect may could into play in terms of an area like Provo UT being tied for 3rd with a very low black percentage. Same for similar areas on the list is what I believe he is referring to.
Then just say "Black people" and be done lol.
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Old 09-13-2023, 11:44 AM
 
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https://greenbookglobal.com/travel-t...eople-in-2022/

While not comprehensive, a black-owned firm is clearly more specific to notes on the black experience: what its like for singles, families, different careers, the arts, etc and it talks about these things SPECIFICALLY from the black perspective, with feedback from black residents and travelers to these places...

These other sites arent doing this, its just numbers on the board. If you tell me a place where black folks are "thriving" is just 2% black, you better be able to explain to me how they are thriving, with more detail than what the black income is. Because the income itself doesn't tell me anything on what it's like living black there...
I think both types of lists, one type based on more objective economic criteria and the other on more subjective cultural criteria, have their place. IMO, the issue comes into play when people utilize any of these "best cities" list as landing places and not starting points.
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Old 09-13-2023, 12:12 PM
 
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I think both types of lists, one type based on more objective economic criteria and the other on more subjective cultural criteria, have their place. IMO, the issue comes into play when people utilize any of these "best cities" list as landing places and not starting points.
I agree, as if you take this at face value, there may be other important factors that one values that may not be available in a higher ranked area compared to a lower ranked area. Like think about it, if a Black person had the option of working at say BYU in Provo or Syracuse University in Syracuse with the same benefits/pay, where would most Black people likely go with?
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Old 09-13-2023, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Tampa - St. Louis
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"% of Black households that make $100,000 or more a year" would make more sense if it were replaced with a "ratio of % of households that make $100,000 or more a year that are black households over the % of metro households that are black." That said 100k is pretty bleak in San Jose vs 100k in Memphis.
I would say the methodology is all over the place. Like if 25% of black families in an expensive city like NYC and LA make over $100k, but only 20% of them own real estate, are they really thriving? The same thing goes for cities where black people have a high number of bachelor's degrees, but simultaneously poor compared to their non-black counterparts. Lists like these are subjective and effectively click bait.
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Old 09-13-2023, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I would say the methodology is all over the place. Like if 25% of black families in an expensive city like NYC and LA make over $100k, but only 20% of them own real estate, are they really thriving? The same thing goes for cities where black people have a high number of bachelor's degrees, but simultaneously poor compared to their non-black counterparts. Lists like these are subjective and effectively click bait.
But at the same time places that have higher black homeownership or more economic equity between whites in blacks- how much does it matter when you have regressive politics and incarceration rates, homes with underwater value or minimal built-up equity or where whites are relatively poor and uneducated as well? That may not necessarily lend itself to good employment options, upward trajectory or mainstream culture.

Then there's the size scope and quality of different black-oriented programs/show/organizations....how much does one values integrations.....how about there's to natural amenities, man-made amenities, weather, and more? These lists are not definitive and it really depends on an individual as to what they consider "thriving."

Would be better to just poll African Americans on whether they like or dislike where they live. The metro and the principal city.
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Old 09-13-2023, 02:51 PM
 
Location: North Raleigh x North Sacramento
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I think both types of lists, one type based on more objective economic criteria and the other on more subjective cultural criteria, have their place. IMO, the issue comes into play when people utilize any of these "best cities" list as landing places and not starting points.
I'm not necessarily asking you to agree with me, but you do understand the point i was making, right?
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Old 09-13-2023, 03:31 PM
 
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I would say the methodology is all over the place. Like if 25% of black families in an expensive city like NYC and LA make over $100k, but only 20% of them own real estate, are they really thriving? The same thing goes for cities where black people have a high number of bachelor's degrees, but simultaneously poor compared to their non-black counterparts. Lists like these are subjective and effectively click bait.
Household income and educational attainment are simply baseline metrics. They aren't supposed to account for a theory of everything.
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