Ranking: 100 Metro Area Where Black Americans Thrive the Most (versus, bigger, living)
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But Atlanta has more individuals earning at least $250,000 than DC does.
A household income of $200,000 may or may not be "high" depending on the size of the household. A household with 2 working adults and 3 children with a HHI of $200,000 is not that well off in any large metro area.
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Originally Posted by BajanYankee
But Atlanta has more individuals earning at least $250,000 than DC does.
A household income of $200,000 may or may not be "high" depending on the size of the household. A household with 2 working adults and 3 children with a HHI of $200,000 is not that well off in any large metro area.
That's quite possible, although last I've seen before that DC had more millionaires than Atlanta, but that maybe didn't specify Blacks, and finding a good list is kind of murky.
The thing about DC is the 200k+ earners for households is so high above everywhere else that $250k+ individual numbers kind of get offset because the difference is really only a couple thousand in this data. But your point is taken on "household size". It would be great to see those $250k+ individual numbers by county also like 18Montclair broke down for $200k households.
Some of this may be a matter of cost of living as well. So, in some of these areas, you don’t have to make that much to do well/live relatively comfortably, while others you do have to make that much to live comfortably.
Tht's a valid explanation for why Chicago and Philly seem relatively low; however, it doesn't apply to Memphis, which has a 47% black population compared to Chicago and Philly at 20%, or why Memphis has less homegrown wealth than a mid-sized metro like Jackson.
Tht's a valid explanation for why Chicago and Philly seem relatively low; however, it doesn't apply to Memphis, which has a 47% black population compared to Chicago and Philly at 20%, or why Memphis has less homegrown wealth than a mid-sized metro like Jackson.
Also, my point is more about how income may be impacted by the cost of living. Meaning, comparable income for each area. According to another COL calculator, $200k in Philadelphia is on par with a little under $148k in Memphis. This is why I say that cost of living has to be considered with the list.
No, no, no, y'all aren't about to do this AGAIN on this thread.
Why does every discussion about black wealth always end up turning into an Atlanta vs DC debate? It's getting VERY tiresome.
It’s because they are the two largest metros with the some of the most significant black population and black wealth.there are only a few metros with significant black populations and significant black wealth in this country.
Also, my point is more about how income may be impacted by the cost of living. Meaning, comparable income for each area. According to another COL calculator, $200k in Philadelphia is on par with a little under $148k in Memphis. This is why I say that cost of living has to be considered with the list.
I don't disagree at all, but using $250k as a threshold for "thriving" is also nuanced and varied, just like MSA's which are not uniform.
What if we expanded Jackson MSA to include the same physical area as Memphis? How many Black individuals would be part of the expanded metro area, and what percentage of them would have an income considered thriving for the region? Expanding the metro to Memphis' size would either hurt or help Jacksons "thriving" rate.
It’s because they are the two largest metros with the some of the most significant black population and black wealth.there are only a few metros with significant black populations and significant black wealth in this country.
I understand, but since this thread is about the top 100 metros, we need to consider all 100 or at the least the top 10. Derailing this thread into another Atlanta vs DC debate would be unfair to the other 98 metros, especially since there's another active thread for Atlanta and DC.
1. Not every city in the 2021 1-year estimates has data so this is not a ranking.
US Cities by Number of Black Households Earning $200,000+, 2021:
300+households
New York, NY 38,338
Chicago, IL 10,430
Washington, DC 9,309
Los Angeles, CA 8,225
Philadelphia, PA 5,349
Houston, TX 5,152
Atlanta, GA 4,074
Charlotte, NC 4,025
Baltimore, MD 3,564
Boston, MA 3,511
South Fulton, GA 3,283
Memphis, TN 3,083
Oakland, CA 2,909
Jacksonville, FL 2,631
Dallas, TX 2,615
Indianapolis, IN 2,613
Miramar, FL 2,542
Waldorf, MD 2,486
Detroit, MI 2,464
Nashville, TN 2,171
Phoenix, AZ 2,045
Chesapeake, VA 1,958
Austin, TX 1,973
Columbus, OH 1,925
San Francisco, CA 1,912
Hampton, VA 1,867
Milwaukee, WI 1,816
Durham, NC 1,763
Pembroke Pines, FL 1,759
Little Rock, AR 1,742
Ft Worth, TX 1,664
Louisville, KY 1,663
Jersey City, NJ 1,591
Seattle, WA 1,524
Long Beach, CA 1,482
Sacramento, CA 1,430
New Orleans, LA 1,428
San Diego, CA 1,423
San Jose, CA 1,330
Virginia Beach, VA 1,303
Antioch, CA 1,296
Birmingham, AL 1,192
Newark, NJ 1,139
Columbus, GA 1,056
Augusta, GA 1,085
Inglewood, CA 1,046
Yonkers, NY 1,043
Montgomery, AL 1,014
Missouri City, TX 981
Southfield, MI 965
Newport News, VA 956
Denver, CO 899
Carson, CA 884
Raleigh, NC 859
Pittsburgh, PA 857
Suffolk, VA 853
Mt Vernon, NY 845
Greensboro, NC 837
Bridgeport, CT 820
Albany, GA 817
Las Vegas, NV 811
Minneapolis, MN 803
Orlando, FL 797
Warner Robins, GA 774
North Charleston, SC 772
Miami Gardens, CA 759
Worcester, MA 757
Fayetteville, NC 748
Vallejo, CA 738
West Palm Beach, FL 725
Arlington, TX 721
Portland, OR 719
Rochester, NY 710
Lauderhill, FL 707
Brockton, MA 702
Mesquite, TX 698
East Orange, NJ 697
Riverside, CA 697
Germantown, MD 677
Oklahoma City, OK 661
North Las Vegas, NV 659
Aurora, CO 654
Stockton, CA 652
Fresno, CA 637
Sunrise, FL 627
Grand Rapids, MI 612
Bakersfield, CA 610
Shreveport, LA 608
Henderson, NV 604
Madison, WI 598
San Antonio, TX 587
Siver Spring, MD 586
Richmond, CA 579
Mobile, AL 577
Columbia, SC 551
Richmond, VA 527
Fairfield, CA 525
Warren, MI 525
Tucson, AZ 521
Macon, GA 514
St Paul, MN 514
Arlington, VA 500
New Haven, CT 494
Tampa, FL 488
Paterson, NJ 482
Moreno Valley, CA 477
Toledo, OH 466
Ft Lauderadale, FL 450
Charleston, SC 443
Irving, TX 433
Pasadena, CA 431
Lansing, MI 426
Lancaster, CA 420
Alexandria, VA 414
Miami, FL 406
Kansas City, MO 402
Tuscaloosa, AL 401
Waterbury, CT 398
Compton, CA 378
Joliet, IL 377
Tallahassee, FL 372
Farmington Hill, MI 362
Winston-Salem, NC 361
Hartford, CT 358
Akron, OH 350
Garland, TX 350
Flint, MI 349
Peoria, IL 334
Omaha, NE 333
Portsmouth, VA 330
Huntsville, AL 328
Grand Prarie, TX 326
St Louis, MO 319
Buffalo, NY 317
Kansas City, KS 313
Northeast Cities by Percentage of Black Households Earning $200,000+
Waldorf MD - 14.1%
Germantown MD - 9.8%
Washington DC - 7.7%
Jersey City - 6.8%
Boston - 6.0%
Brockton - 5.7%
Silver Springs - 5.6%
New York City - 5.1%
Mt. Vernon - 4.9%
Waterbury - 4.8%
East Orange - 3.3%
Paterson - 3.6%
New Haven - 3.0%
Alexandria VA - 2.4%
Baltimore - 2.4%
Newark - 2.2%
Rochester NY - 2.2%
Philadelphia - 2.1%
Hartford 2.0%
Buffalo - 0.9%
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