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View Poll Results: Which state would lose the most status without its major MSA?
Kansas (Witchita) 4 7.02%
Connecticut (Hartford) 14 24.56%
Arkansas (Little Rock) 17 29.82%
Mississippi (Jackson) 22 38.60%
Voters: 57. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-21-2024, 07:20 PM
 
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No, because the portion of the state actually is the Bridgeport-Stamford-Danbury metro area(Fairfield County). So, there isn't a part of CT in the NYC metro area. It is a part of the CSA though.
How about Memphis then?

Looks like their MSA spills into Arkansas and its significantly bigger than Little Rock MSA (by nearly 600K).


https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...ar-metro-area/
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Old 02-22-2024, 07:39 AM
 
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How about Memphis then?

Looks like their MSA spills into Arkansas and its significantly bigger than Little Rock MSA (by nearly 600K).


https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...ar-metro-area/
I think the difference with Kansas City versus those areas is that the Kansas side of the overall Kansas City metro area actually has more people than the Wichita metro area. Between Johnson, Wyandotte and Leavenworth Counties, there are about 880,000 people, which is about 230,000 more people than the Wichita metro area. So, there is a different dynamic between the KC example and that of CT and AR in the Memphis metro area.
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Old 02-22-2024, 07:45 AM
 
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A comparison of four states with relatively obscure primary MSA's:

Kansas: Witchita MSA (19% of state population)

Connecticut: Hartford MSA (43% of state population)

Mississippi: Jackson MSA (18% of state population)

Arkansas: Little Rock MSA (22% of state population)

Which state would lose the most status absent its primary MSA?
In what world is Hartford MSA 43% of Connecticut’s population?
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Old 02-22-2024, 07:52 AM
 
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CT would be the least since FFC and New Haven kinda overule CT... not Hartford.
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Old 02-22-2024, 07:53 AM
 
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In what world is Hartford MSA 43% of Connecticut’s population?
With the new planning regions, they combined New Haven, Naugatuck Valley, old Middlesex County CT and the Capitol Region.

CT does not have Counties anymore. https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...of-connecticut
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Old 02-22-2024, 07:56 AM
 
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In what world is Hartford MSA 43% of Connecticut’s population?
In today’s world?

Hartford’s MSA is 1.4 million. Connecticut’s population is 3.6 million.

The math maths
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Old 02-22-2024, 07:23 PM
 
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I think the difference with Kansas City versus those areas is that the Kansas side of the overall Kansas City metro area actually has more people than the Wichita metro area. Between Johnson, Wyandotte and Leavenworth Counties, there are about 880,000 people, which is about 230,000 more people than the Wichita metro area. So, there is a different dynamic between the KC example and that of CT and AR in the Memphis metro area.
I suppose it's debatable, man KC needs to get a major metro.

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Yeah I'm not sure why the discussion jumped to states like Mississippi.
I did some digging and found this clue upthread-

[quote=Losfrisco;66449682]A comparison of four states with relatively obscure primary MSA's:

Kansas: Witchita MSA (19% of state population)

Connecticut: Hartford MSA (43% of state population)

Mississippi: Jackson MSA (18% of state population)

Arkansas: Little Rock MSA (22% of state population)

Which state would lose the most status absent its primary MSA?[
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Remember the question was simply “status”. That alone pretty much makes it only relevant for NY and IL.
It was a closed ended question with four distinct poll options underneath it. The fact that they are recognized as states is prima facie evidence that they have status.

There's another thread that poses the same question for New York, Illinois, and others:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/gene...thout-its.html
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Old 02-22-2024, 07:31 PM
 
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So the question was whether they’d lose their status as states?
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Old 02-22-2024, 07:34 PM
 
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So the question was whether they’d lose their status as states?
Which one would lose the most status if it lost its primary MSA.

I voted for Arkansas, but I'm second guessing that because of Fayetteville.

Whether a state could lose its state status from simply not having enough going on within its borders is another question.
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Old 02-22-2024, 08:57 PM
 
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Kansas and Connecticut are more defined by cities that aren't even in them (Kansas City and New York City, respectively) than ones that are, so it wouldn't be these two. Mississippi would actually improve without Jackson, so it's not that one. I guess that leaves Arkansas. Granted that Fayetteville carries an increasing share of the weight for that state, but I still think the loss of Little Rock would hurt.
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