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View Poll Results: Philly vs DC
Philadelphia 127 48.11%
Washington, D.C. 137 51.89%
Voters: 264. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-12-2012, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Aerials of the 2 cities. Cropped shots can be deceiving^. In comparison to Philadelphia, Houston doesnt have near the density of Philadelphia, although it is certainly more dense than the miamis Atl,Dall etc etc..

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Philadelphia.Apologies This photo is about 7 or 8 yrs old,center City has since added a dozen new buildings
And the one of Houston is how old?

Anyway I picked Philadelphia by a hair.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:58 PM
 
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It's a blowout, Washington DC so totally wins this for me.

Washington for the WIN!

Philadelphia: 6,562,287

Race & Hispanics
White: 4,564,012 (69.5%)
Black: 1,284,514 (19.6%)
Asian: 312,116 (4.8%)
Hispanic: 598,043 (9.1%)
Other: 237,806 (3.6%)

White (In combo): 4,684,541 (71.4%)
Black (In combo): 1,369,770 (20.9%)
Asian (In combo): 349,377 (5.3%)
Other (In combo): 268,394 (4.1%)

Ancestry
American: 264,433
Arab: 28,328
Czech: 18,966
Danish: 8,600
Dutch: 73,718
English: 509,224
French: 103,189
French Canadian: 17,146
German: 1,178,199
Greek: 32,612
Hungarian: 45,476
Irish: 1,303,461
Italian: 908,811
Lithuanian: 34,160
Norwegian: 25,223
Polish: 349,570
Portuguese: 15,042
Russian: 121,528
Scotch-Irish: 46,865
Scottish: 90,341
Slovak: 26,119
Subsaharan African: 65,540
Swedish: 41,412
Swiss: 16,757
Ukrainian: 60,410
Welsh: 55,216
West Indian: 72,101

Albanian: 7,299
Egyptian: 4,115
Lebanese: 6,447
Syrian: 2,307
Armenian: 8,499
Australian: 1,470
Austrian: 22,989
Barbadian: 2,188
Belgian: 3,178
Brazilian: 7,436
British: 23,952
British West Indian: 1,511
Bulgarian: 1,051
Kenyan: 1,732
Canadian: 9,198
Croatian: 5,502
Finnish: 4,298
Guyanese: 2,885
Ghanian: 2,396
Haitian: 18,152
Jamaican: 27,326
Iranian: 4,207
Israeli: 3,016
Latvian: 3,132
Liberian: 8,532
Luxemburger:
Moroccan: 2,097
Norwegian: 24,997
Romanian: 12,942
Palestinian: 1,156
Scandinavian: 4,554
Serbian: 2,620
Sierra Leonean: 1,092
Slavic: 4,473
Slovene: 1,389
South African: 937
Turkish: 5,750
Trinidadian: 5,204
Ethiopian: 2,664
Nigerian: 6,172
Yugoslavian: 3,757

Nationality
Mexican: 116,859
Puerto Rican: 318,448
Cuban: 14,262
Dominican: 47,803
Costa Rican: 3,603
Guatemalen: 11,800
Honduran: 6,029
Nicaraguan: 2,458
Panamanian: 3,802
Salvadoran: 6,653
Argentinean: 5,269
Bolivian: 332
Chilean: 4,308
Colombian: 15,093
Ecuadorian: 7,287
Paraguayan: 593
Peruvian: 6,899
Uruguayan: 1,211
Venezuelan: 2,289
Spaniard: 5,882
Spanish: 6,156
Asian Indian: 95,201
Chinese: 77,835
Filipino: 27,962
Japanese: 3,714
Korean: 33,091
Vietnamese: 34,668

Washington DC: 5,703,948

Race & Hispanics
White: 3,194,228 (56.0%)
Black: 1,468,839 (25.8%)
Asian: 534,623 (9.4%)
Hispanic: 806,207 (14.1%)
Other: 287,705 (5.0%)

White (In combo): 3,358,572 (58.9%)
Black (In combo): 1,552,896 (27.2%)
Asian (In combo): 618,607 (10.8%)
Other (In combo): 325,516 (5.7%)

Ancestry
American: 301,453
Arab: 59,867
Czech: 20,061
Danish: 16,361
Dutch: 48,453
English: 444,822
French: 102,385
French Canadian: 23,519
German: 630,292
Greek: 25,621
Hungarian: 24,298
Irish: 548,659
Italian: 255,800
Lithuanian: 15,881
Norwegian: 36,610
Polish: 132,554
Portuguese: 11,843
Russian: 81,544
Scotch-Irish: 58,428
Scottish: 106,118
Slovak: 12,077
Subsaharan African: 221,038
Swedish: 43,935
Swiss: 15,428
Ukrainian: 19,708
Welsh: 30,396
West Indian: 65,012

Algerian: 1,173
Kurdish: 951
Afghan: 10,001
Albanian: 2,146
Egyptian: 6,560
Iraqi: 1,806
Jordanian: 1,556
Lebanese: 12,112
Morraccan: 4,740
Palestinian: 3,058
Syrian: 2,708
Armenian: 6,330
Australian: 1,956
Austrian: 18,590
Belgian: 4,487
Brazilian: 7,763
British: 39,620
Bulgarian: 2,814
Cameroonian: 5,941
Congolese: 1,204
Kenyan: 2,191
Liberian: 4,895
Senegalese: 1,153
Sierra Leanean: 4,652
Canadian: 9,733
Croatian: 5,493
Finnish: 5,964
Guyanese: 4,976
Icelander: 755
Iranian: 26,196
Israeili: 2,938
Latvian: 2,684
Luxemburger: 801
Macedonian: 731
Norwegian: 39,018
Romanian: 9,636
Scandinavian: 8,551
Serbian: 3,571
Slavic: 3,578
Slovene: 3,051
Cape Verdean: 909
Ethiopian: 32,316
Ghanaian: 13,006
Nigerian: 20,313
Bahamian: 915
Barbadian: 1,205
British West Indian: 2,531
Haitian: 8,708
Jamaican: 27,667
Trinadadian: 8,034
Yugoslavian: 2,620
Somalian: 3,102
Sudanese: 3,342
Grenadian: 1,278
South African: 1,023
Turkish: 7,888

Nationality
Mexican: 119,803
Puerto Rican: 49,478
Cuban: 16,416
Dominican: 18,682
Costa Rican: 4,851
Guatemalen: 56,446
Honduran: 41,973
Nicaraguan: 15,088
Panamanian: 5,982
Salvadoran: 276,497
Argentinean: 11,359
Bolivian: 40,782
Chilean: 7,884
Colombian: 23,045
Ecuadorian: 8,029
Paraguayan: 1,579
Peruvian: 51,297
Uruguayan: 1,779
Venezuelan: 9,101
Spaniard: 15,404
Spanish: 7,335
Asian Indian: 132,227
Chinese: 87,969
Filipino: 63,036
Japanese: 13,367
Korean: 86,301
Vietnamese: 63,232

Rank Estimated size of the gay, lesbian, and bisexual population

1 New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island 568,903
2 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana 442,211
3 Chicago-Naperville-Joliet 288,748
4 San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont 256,313
5 Boston-Cambridge-Quincy 201,344
6 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria 191,959
7 Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington 183,718
8 Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Miami Beach 183,346
9 Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta 180,168
10 Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington 179,459
11 Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown 172,839

Born overseas (by percentages):
- Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL: 38.21%
- San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA: 36.44%
- Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA: 34.07%
- San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA: 29.69%
- New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA: 28.99%
- San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA: 23.40%
- Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX: 21.94%
- Las Vegas-Paradise, NV: 21.75%
- Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV: 21.61%
- Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA: 21.32%
- Honolulu, HI: 19.33%
- Sacramento--Arden-Arcade--Roseville, CA: 17.94%
- Chicago-Joliet-Naperville, IL-IN-WI: 17.78%
- Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX: 17.51%
- Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA: 16.93%
- Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH: 16.79%
- Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL: 16.40%
- Austin-Round Rock-San Marcos, TX: 14.94%
- Phoenix-Mesa-Glendale, AZ: 14.51%
- Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA: 13.25%
- Tucson, AZ: 12.94%
- Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA: 12.47%
- Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL: 12.45%
- Denver-Aurora-Broomfield, CO: 12.10%
- Salt Lake City, UT: 11.78%
- San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX: 11.71%
- Raleigh-Cary, NC: 11.42%
- Charlotte-Gastonia-Rock Hill, NC-SC: 12.27%
- Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD: 9.79%
- Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI: 9.73%
- Detroit-Warren-Livonia, MI: 8.70%

Metropolitans by Total Hispanic Population:
- Los Angeles: 8,206,577
- New York: 4,903,875
- Miami: 2,369,074
- Houston: 2,218,894
- Chicago: 2,020,341
- Dallas: 1,875,995
- Bay Area: 1,846,994
- Washington: 806,207
- Boston: 699,068
- Atlanta: 623,428
- Philadelphia: 598,043

Metropolitans by Hispanic Population (exclusion of their largest Hispanic group):
- New York: 3,444,749 (excluding Puerto Ricans)
- Los Angeles: 1,553,897 (excluding Mexicans)
- Miami: 1,328,551 (excluding Cubans)
- Washington: 529,710 (excluding El Salvadorans)
- Houston: 503,642 (excluding Mexicans)
- Boston: 470,871 (excluding Puerto Ricans)
- Bay Area: 434,769 (excluding Mexicans)
- Chicago: 412,412 (excluding Mexicans)
- Philadelphia: 279,595 (excluding Puerto Ricans)
- Dallas: 269,274 (excluding Mexicans)
- Atlanta: 256,086 (excluding Mexicans)

Metropolitans by Mexican Population:
- Los Angeles: 6,652,680
- Houston: 1,715,252
- Chicago: 1,607,929
- Dallas: 1,606,721
- Bay Area: 1,412,225
- New York: 642,472
- Atlanta: 367,342
- Miami: 134,944
- Washington: 119,803
- Philadelphia: 116,859
- Boston: 52,388

For the larger 11 metropolitans.

Total Overseas Born Population:
- New York: 5,974,000
- Los Angeles: 5,511,026
- Bay Area: 2,226,990
- Miami: 2,166,385
- Chicago: 1,699,371
- Houston: 1,344,448
- Washington: 1,232,826
- Dallas: 1,160,081
- Boston: 1,111,220
- Atlanta: 744,033
- Philadelphia: 629,785

Overseas Born in Europe:
- New York: 1,042,462
- Chicago: 364,480
- Los Angeles: 270,882
- Boston: 249,908
- Bay Area: 209,094
- Philadelphia: 128,239
- Miami: 123,719
- Washington: 111,610
- Atlanta: 65,426
- Houston: 59,048
- Dallas: 57,674

Overseas Born in Northern America:
- Los Angeles: 58,921
- New York: 52,451
- Boston: 36,362
- Miami: 32,575
- Bay Area: 31,837
- Houston: 15,136
- Dallas: 14,621
- Chicago: 14,058
- Washington: 11,973
- Atlanta: 10,602
- Philadelphia: 10,032

Overseas Born in Latin America:
- Los Angeles: 3,239,408
- New York: 2,984,526
- Miami: 1,879,281
- Houston: 897,208
- Chicago: 829,267
- Dallas: 746,995
- Bay Area: 731,434
- Washington: 501,800
- Boston: 408,154
- Atlanta: 386,982
- Philadelphia: 202,281

Overseas Born in Africa:
- New York: 236,869
- Washington: 171,290
- Boston: 98,939
- Los Angeles: 87,175
- Atlanta: 70,495
- Dallas: 67,099
- Houston: 54,125
- Philadelphia: 49,854
- Chicago: 46,875
- Bay Area: 34,864
- Miami: 20,511

Overseas Born in Asia:
- Los Angeles: 1,831,693
- New York: 1,646,941
- Bay Area: 1,193,466
- Chicago: 440,667
- Washington: 432,478
- Houston: 316,083
- Boston: 314,190
- Dallas: 271,261
- Philadelphia: 236,943
- Atlanta: 208,366
- Miami: 108,860

Overseas Born in Oceania:
- Bay Area: 26,295
- Los Angeles: 22,947
- New York: 10,751
- Chicago: 4,024
- Washington: 3,675
- Boston: 3,667
- Houston: 2,848
- Philadelphia: 2,436
- Dallas: 2,431
- Atlanta: 2,162
- Miami: 1,439

Asian only population in raw numbers (2011):
Los Angeles: 2,245,657
New York: 2,051,722
Bay Area: 1,713,233
Chicago: 541,435
Washington DC: 534,623
Seattle: 440,197
Honolulu: 419,106
Houston: 402,551
Boston: 400,225
Dallas/Fort Worth: 356,800
San Diego: 346,972
Philadelphia: 312,116
Sacramento: 281,836
Atlanta: 265,502
Minneapolis/Saint Paul: 193,959
Detroit: 176,194
Las Vegas: 168,665
Phoenix: 138,688
Portland: 135,252
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 131,132
Baltimore: 126,886
Denver: 111,726
Orlando: 99,158
Tampa: 82,258
Saint Louis: 59,266
Cleveland: 56,095

Asians of 2 or more race population in raw numbers (2011):
Los Angeles: 2,505,782
New York: 2,234,575
Bay Area: 1,910,146
Washington DC: 618,607
Chicago: 610,194
Honolulu: 589,618
Seattle: 536,702
Boston: 451,339
Houston: 446,209
San Diego: 413,325
Dallas/Fort Worth: 403,476
Philadelphia: 349,377
Sacramento: 342,642
Atlanta: 302,230
Minneapolis/Saint Paul: 223,230
Las Vegas: 212,936
Detroit: 211,476
Phoenix: 179,775
Portland: 165,986
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 161,826
Denver: 141,761
Baltimore: 126,591
Orlando: 116,217
Tampa: 101,444
Saint Louis: 76,225
Cleveland: 69,940

Total Immigration 2011:
- New York: 188,332 (CSA)
- New York: 183,681 (MSA)
- Los Angeles: 104,158 (CSA)
- Los Angeles: 86,161 (MSA)
- Miami: 71,775
- Bay Area: 50,987 (CSA)
- Washington: 39,365
- Chicago: 35,039
- Boston: 33,196 (CSA)
- San Francisco: 32,433 (MSA)
- Houston: 31,136
- Dallas: 28,090
- Boston: 25,909 (MSA)
- Atlanta: 22,035
- San Diego: 21,556
- Philadelphia: 18,925
- San Jose: 18,554 (MSA)
- Seattle: 17,823
- Riverside: 14,885 (MSA)
- Phoenix: 14,013
- Detroit: 12,198
- Minneapolis: 10,175

Immigration from Northern America:
- New York: 54,894
- Miami: 45,743
- Los Angeles: 35,043 (CSA)
- Houston: 11,757
- Dallas: 9,363
- Chicago: 8,747
- San Diego: 7,910
- Boston: 7,409
- Bay Area: 6,828 (CSA)
- Washington: 6,597
- Phoenix: 5,485
- El Paso, TX: 5,149
- Atlanta: 4,288
- Tampa: 4,031
- Orlando: 3,945
- Philadelphia: 3,351
- Las Vegas: 3,220

Immigration from South America:
- New York: 23,444
- Miami: 17,693
- Los Angeles: 3,702
- Washington: 3,418
- Orlando: 2,655
- Boston: 2,503
- Houston: 2,438
- Atlanta: 2,255
- Chicago: 1,341
- Tampa: 1,324
- Dallas: 1,204
- Bridgeport: 1,023
- Philadelphia: 820
- Providence: 561

Immigration from Europe:
- New York: 15,741
- Chicago: 6,586
- Los Angeles: 4,035
- Bay Area: 3,591 (CSA)
- Miami: 3,168
- Boston: 2,632
- Washington: 2,505
- Philadelphia: 2,049
- Seattle: 2,018
- Detroit: 1,701
- Houston: 1,567
- Atlanta: 1,287
- Sacramento: 1,317
- Dallas: 1,136
- San Diego: 1,113

Immigration from Africa:
- New York: 12,576
- Washington: 10,740
- Atlanta: 4,687
- Boston: 4,359
- Minneapolis: 3,900
- Dallas: 3,868
- Philadelphia: 3,483
- Houston: 3,038
- Seattle: 2,816
- Los Angeles: 2,685
- Chicago: 2,365
- San Diego: 777

Immigration from Asia:
- New York: 76,294
- Los Angeles: 49,968
- Bay Area: 36,492 (CSA)
- Washington: 15,979
- Chicago: 15,789
- Dallas: 12,412
- Houston: 12,218
- Boston: 11,225
- San Diego: 11,178
- Seattle: 10,803
- Philadelphia: 9,444
- Atlanta: 9,249
- Detroit: 8,447
- Phoenix: 6,073
- Riverside: 5,426
- Honolulu: 5,020

Immigration from Oceania:
- Bay Area: 573 (CSA)
- Los Angeles: 470
- New York: 412
- Seattle: 198
- Chicago: 97
- Washington: 82
- San Diego: 79
- Dallas: 76
- Boston: 68
- Houston: 65
- Riverside: 63
- Atlanta: 55
- Phoenix: 55
- Philadelphia: 53

Immigration from Mexico
- Los Angeles: 16,565
- Houston: 7,792
- Dallas: 7,492
- San Diego: 7,402
- Chicago: 7,049
- Riverside: 6,608
- El Paso, TX: 5,083
- Phoenix: 4,472
- Bay Area: 3,928 (CSA)
- San Antonio: 2,538
- Denver: 2,161
- New York: 2,103

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Old 11-12-2012, 01:51 PM
 
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So, your entire measure is diversity? I also think using MSA measures is a bit misleading in this case, because Philadelphia's ethnic groups are more concentrated. I don't think anyone who's been to Philadelphia and DC would say that DC has a bigger Chinese presence.
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Old 11-12-2012, 01:59 PM
 
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So, your entire measure is diversity? I also think using MSA measures is a bit misleading in this case, because Philadelphia's ethnic groups are more concentrated. I don't think anyone who's been to Philadelphia and DC would say that DC has a bigger Chinese presence.
Its gets even more misleading when you try and compare the ethnic groups at the CSA level.
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:44 PM
 
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. No of course not. It's just boring on this forum, I'm just trying to start conversations.
Actually, I find it useful. I'll probably copy it for reference.

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Did I ever say that? No, I didn't.

And if I did say that, is there something wrong with it? I don't think so.
I was asking you if your entire measure was diversity because that's what you posted below your answer.

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Northern Virginia, especially in Arlington, Fairfax, & Alexandria have quite a great amount of Chinese people. The Chinese population is larger in Washington-Northern Virginia-Maryland suburbs than Philadelphia area but it's a small difference.
I'm aware of the Chinese population in Arlington/NoVa. I live here. There's also a sizable Chinese population in Maryland at both ends of the red line. Actually, even if people diss Chinatown, it has one of the highest Chinese populations of the area. That's why I said the Chinese population was more spread out and has less of an impact on DC.

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I think the real comparison is that Washington's had Chinese immigrants more recently, whereas Philadelphia has had them for about 20 years now, maybe more.
DC has had Chinese immigration for well over 20 years. That's why Chinatown is still called Chinatown, despite its massive changes. You might be right that DC's Chinese immigration has increased in recent years. I couldn't answer that.[/quote]
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:39 PM
 
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No one said anything about Houston being as dense as Philadelphia. I was simply calling out your ridiculous claim that the skyline was linear.
Linear is your word not mine.

As you can see Philadelphias Center City and Houstons downtown are in different classes density wise which was my point. Thats what you get for being a wiseguy.
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:38 PM
 
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. No of course not. It's just boring on this forum, I'm just trying to start conversations.

Did I ever say that? No, I didn't.

And if I did say that, is there something wrong with it? I don't think so.

I posted it because it seemed acceptable for a comparison thread, by the way. Just like in another thread: https://www.city-data.com/forum/26921047-post332.html

Northern Virginia, especially in Arlington, Fairfax, & Alexandria have quite a great amount of Chinese people. The Chinese population is larger in Washington-Northern Virginia-Maryland suburbs than Philadelphia area but it's a small difference.

I think the real comparison is that Washington's had Chinese immigrants more recently, whereas Philadelphia has had them for about 20 years now, maybe more.

Except that I didn't.

I gave Philadelphia the CSA and left Washington as the MSA though. I happen to be one of those that don't like to include Baltimore. We don't need them to win any fights.
Ok now that you got all of that our of your system, I hope you sleep well at night knowing that dc is better than philly as if we actually give a f*ck..
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:53 PM
 
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Ok now that you got all of that our of your system, I hope you sleep well at night knowing that dc is better than philly as if we actually give a f*ck..
I've never claimed Washington is better than Philadelphia, chances are that you wont ever see me say it either. I see strategic importance in every major city in the country. I believe Philadelphia is a fine city. Would I ever live there? Probably not, but it's a fine place nonetheless.

You're confusing me for one of your standard Bay Area adversaries, I am not. It's not my style.
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Old 11-13-2012, 02:30 PM
 
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It's not dense at all. The skyline is still kind of small to my taste. It needs more growth. I realize the Buck tower is nearly topping off and another building on Market st. getting floors added, but it's not enough. It looks like any other cities in the U.S., just nothing special. I love Pittsburgh skyline since it's prettier and growing. It looks more impressive from the veiwing eyes. Seattle has a good skyline and denser one than this. This just looks average.
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Old 11-13-2012, 02:32 PM
 
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If were talking skyline, DC doesn't even have a skyline while Philadelphia's is probably top 5 in the country after NYC, Chicago and Seattle. Philly has one of the densist skylines in the US while most cities, especially in the south or west have a few big buildings with a lot of space in between. It does seem however that Philly's skyline isn't growing basically because all the old school Philadelphians on the council don't want anymore big buildings.
I disagree. It's only average.
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