America's most underrated region-The Midwest (better, Chicago, cons, live)
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Is Chicago on par with London, Paris and New York? How many of them have you visited? Actually even reading about those cities would give you a clue about absurdity of you claims.
Is Chicago and Midwest in general so liberal? When was the last time any of the Midwestern states had a black governor? Why is Chicago still so segregated in XXI century?
I agree...except that Chicago is every bit as good as Paris London and New York... I'd say it fails on all accounts when this is said which is my beef with Chicago "homers" ... great city,yes... nyc london paris? ..negative.
Yup, mine too. The poor people of Chicago believe they are below New York because they are smaller, have less tall buildings etc etc not realizing that what puts them behind is their own mindset and mentality. Chicago may become a great city in about 100 years when it finally loses its rural and industrial legacy, when its population becomes truly urban.. Who knows...
Is Chicago on par with London, Paris and New York? How many of them have you visited? Actually even reading about those cities would give you a clue about absurdity of you claims.
Is Chicago and Midwest in general so liberal? When was the last time any of the Midwestern states had a black governor? Why is Chicago still so segregated in XXI century?
If the race of a governor is an indicator of liberalism, this country is hardly liberal. Since Reconstruction, there have been 3 black governors in the U.S. 2 have been elected (Wilder in Virgina, Patrick in Massachusetts) and 1 was appointed (Patterson in New York).
Of the 4 black senators, 3 have been elected (Brooke in Massachusetts, Mosley-Braun in Illinois, and Obama in Illinois) and 1 was appointed (Burris in Illinois, ugh).
I guess with an Austrian born governor, and no black senators or governors in it's history, California must be filled with crypto-nazis
In all seriousness though people who aren't familiar with the midwest might be surprised that it's not run by some tight hardcore conservative machine. A lot of places (not all of courses)- like Iowa - has more of a live and let live attitude than people think. Mr. Air America Al Franken is going to represent (in all likelihood) the state of Minnesota in the U.S. senate. And the only thing zanier than Arnold Schwarzenegger as a governor is his Predator co-star Jesse Ventura as governor - who was a libertarian leaning independent, but very liberal in social issues that didn't have huge financial implications.
Ok, that was a bit off on a tangent there I suppose.
If the race of a governor is an indicator of liberalism, this country is hardly liberal. Since Reconstruction, there have been 3 black governors in the U.S. 2 have been elected (Wilder in Virgina, Patrick in Massachusetts) and 1 was appointed (Patterson in New York).
Of the 4 black senators, 3 have been elected (Brooke in Massachusetts, Mosley-Braun in Illinois, and Obama in Illinois) and 1 was appointed (Burris in Illinois, ugh).
I guess with an Austrian born governor, and no black senators or governors in it's history, California must be filled with crypto-nazis
In all seriousness though people who aren't familiar with the midwest might be surprised that it's not run by some tight hardcore conservative machine. A lot of places (not all of courses)- like Iowa - has more of a live and let live attitude than people think. Mr. Air America Al Franken is going to represent (in all likelihood) the state of Minnesota in the U.S. senate. And the only thing zanier than Arnold Schwarzenegger as a governor is his Predator co-star Jesse Ventura as governor - who was a libertarian leaning independent, but very liberal in social issues that didn't have huge financial implications.
Ok, that was a bit off on a tangent there I suppose.
No, I think it is a great post, putting a lot of things into pespective.
My objection is when people call Chicago liberal while I know how racist and as a result racially segregated this city is. Coming from New York Chicago felt like a trip back in time.
No, I think it is a great post, putting a lot of thing into pespective.
My objection is when people call Chicago liberal while I know how racist and as a result racially segregated this city is. Coming from New York Chicago felt like a trip back in time.
Way to shift the goalposts when you get called out on. You do realize that New York is still one of the most segregated cities in America?
Way to shift the goalposts when you get called out on. You do realize that New York is still one of the most segregated cities in America?
Yes it is, but New York is mostly segregated along the income and not color of your skin. I had plenty of Black buddies in New York and were often going out together. When I got to Chicago I realized that this is a big no-no here. Segregation applies to all aspects of life here, including bar scene, culture, entertainment... Like I said, coming from New York, Chicago reality felt like a trip back in time. When I spoke to some of my Black coworkers I heard real horror stories that I thought were a thing of the past.
Yes it is, but New York is mostly segregated along the income and not color of your skin. I had plenty of Black buddies in New York and were often going out together. When I got to Chicago I realized that this is a big no-no here. Segregation applies to all aspects of life here, including bar scene, culture, entertainment... Like I said, coming from New York, Chicago reality felt like a trip back in time. When I spoke to some of my Black coworkers I heard real horror stories that I thought were a thing of the past.
"The analysis, conducted by researchers at the State University of New York at Albany, found that from 1990 to 2000, even as virtually every corner of the country adopted a slightly darker hue, whites, blacks, Asians and Hispanics still tended to live apart." New York Times, April 3, 2001. Author: Eric Schmitt.
"Despite the sweeping changes revealed by the new census numbers, New York remains a segregated city." New York Times, March 18, 2001. Author: Andrew Friedman.
"Blacks and whites in New York are no more likely to share neighborhoods than they were a decade ago, when New York was one of the nation's most segregated cities." Washington Post, March 16, 2001. Author: D'Vera Cohn.
I also have anecdotal "horror stories" about New York, but like yours, they mean nothing.
"Blacks and whites in New York are no more likely to share neighborhoods than they were a decade ago, when New York was one of the nation's most segregated cities." Washington Post, March 16, 2001. Author: D'Vera Cohn.
I also have anecdotal "horror stories" about New York, but like yours, they mean nothing.
OK. According to your quote from Washington Post, New York in 2001 was no longer "a one of the nation's most segregated cities". Thanks for proving my point for me.
Anyways, like I said, the only thing that really segregates people in New York is money. If you can afford an apartment on Central Park West then you can live there, not matter what the color of your skin is. Remember, New York is the city of Jackie Robinson, Undergorund Railroad and New Yorker's were called n..r-lovers for a reason...
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