San Francisco vs. Chicago vs. New York (economy, live, best)
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Diversity based off race is sort of meaningless, wouldn't you say?
Well it certainly isn't 'meaningless' to most researchers if every ranking, study, article , etc. I've ever seen on the subject of 'diversity' has been based on race. LOL
Well it certainly isn't 'meaningless' to most researchers if every ranking, study, article , etc. I've ever seen on the subject of 'diversity' has been based on race. LOL
If you think race=diversity I don't think you've read too many articles on diversity.
Most countries don't even count people by racial categories. It's a particularly American phenomenon.
And, even in the U.S. race is only one component of overall diversity. It would be crazy to say that, for example, a Hasidic Jew, or an Egyptian or Yemeni immigrant doesn't contribute to diversity (because they would all be "white" in US Census context), but a regular middle class suburban nuclear family that happens to be nonwhite does contribute to diversity.
Well it certainly isn't 'meaningless' to most researchers if every ranking, study, article , etc. I've ever seen on the subject of 'diversity' has been based on race. LOL
Tell the researcher closest to you that you're tired of filling out census forms saying "Other: Native American/Pacific Islander". If you're a Pacific Islander, I can only imagine what sort of grin you've got on when filling that one on the census form. It's as if the American government just thought "no difference between the two" and grouped it all together.
Oh you know, Native Americans and Pacific Islanders, same thing. Indians and Chinese, same groups of people. Arabs and the Norwegians, they're both Caucasian! Brazilians? Oh they're only located in Latin America, in all actuality, they're just as Caucasian as an Englishwoman from Liverpool!
I'm Singaporean, according to the American government, I'm just about the same as someone from China, demographically. Since we're all being lumped together as "Asians".
Generalizing both metros are very diverse, NYC tends to have more quantity and more representation and sf has better integration
Yes this is totally accurate. As far as sheer numbers no one is disputing NY has more, but still it appears that it was good for some in this thread to be informed about that the SF Bay Area actually is more racially diverse if the measuring stick is which areas areas closest to equilibrium among racial groups-and as far as overall integration. You already knew all of this but clearly some in this conversation were not aware.
Tell the researcher closest to you that you're tired of filling out census forms saying "Other: Native American/Pacific Islander".
Actually it's "Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander" which is perfectly acceptable to me as they count Guamanians, Fijians, Native Hawaiians, Samoans and Tongans--as well as classifications for "other" groups not mentioned.
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I'm Singaporean, according to the American government, I'm just about the same as someone from China, demographically. Since we're all being lumped together as "Asians".
This is why "race" is flawed.
No ranking is going to please everyone--that's life. However, I am satisfied that these rankings provide more than an adequate picture of diversity.
Also, as far as Singapore, what I was able to find was this:
Born in Singapore, 2012
San Francisco CSA 4,967
New York CSA 3,804
Chicago CSA 1,344
Yes this is totally accurate. As far as sheer numbers no one is disputing NY has more, but still it appears that it was good for some in this thread to be informed about that the SF Bay Area actually is more racially diverse if the measuring stick is which areas areas closest to equilibrium among racial groups-and as far as overall integration. You already knew all of this but clearly some in this conversation were not aware.
So what exactly makes segregation bad and integration good?
So what exactly makes segregation bad and integration good?
What about self-segregation?
I won't say they are bad are good b/c that is kind of moralizing or politicizing... It definitely creates a different vibe though. On the one hand, integration make people more americanized and into the general population, in some outer boroughs of NYC and to a lesser extent in Chicago, there are areas that feel like a foreign country and operating completely within their own neighborhoods, they are here, but not really assimilated to any American culture, and often barely speak english, or never need to learn.
So what exactly makes segregation bad and integration good?
You can make whichever argument you like, I never really made a case for or against. Only what is.
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What about self-segregation?
Well it's your perogative to talk about that if you like.
I am more interested in integration and diversity, and like I said earlier, it's very interesting how widespread diversity has become in Northern California.
Between the Bay Area and Sacramento, which is a very large geographic area, we see arguably the highest degree of racial diversity probably in the entire country.
I won't say they are bad are good b/c that is kind of moralizing or politicizing... It definitely creates a different vibe though. On the one hand, integration make people more americanized and into the general population, in some outer boroughs of NYC and to a lesser extent in Chicago, there are areas that feel like a foreign country and operating completely within their own neighborhoods, they are here, but not really assimilated to any American culture, and often barely speak english, or never need to learn.
Devon Street Little India, Koreatown in Albany Park, Argyle (Uptown Chinatown), Little Village. As I said, to a lesser extent but there are some areas like that.
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