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These last two posts are hideous. Can we stay on topic. It may be helpful to provide facts about how SF dropped dramatically and how "devastating" the homeless problem is in SF. No other city spends as much as SF on homelessness due to the rest of the country "outsourcing" their homeless to SF because we actually believe in public services. For the record, SF has a low homicide rate (albeit a very high property crime rate - which is the city is working to fix). Also, no need to comment in this thread if you're making a blanket statement about California. It's an innovative and powerful state with tons of haters. Life goes on...
Also - by any economic metric, SF is far from dropping dramatically. Actually, it's leading and has been for several years. Look at the city's per capita GDP and continued prominence in finance, healthcare, and of course tech despite its relatively compact scale.
I took a rode trip from LA to San Diego recently. I don't hate it, I just find it sleepy, small townish, conservative and almost boring. Coronado Del Mar is absolutely beautiful and love Balboa Park. I thoroughly enjoyed those two places but after that I felt it was time to go back. San Diego is not known for it's great cuisine or music scene. And for its jaw dropping housing prices I feel you don't get much to go with it. I know! It seemed more of a place to go retire in and live a quiet retired happy senior citizen life.
Also - by any economic metric, SF is far from dropping dramatically. Actually, it's leading and has been for several years. Look at the city's per capita GDP and continued prominence in finance, healthcare, and of course tech despite its relatively compact scale.
Yeah that stuff is all on nice paper, but living there sucks and most people would not be down with it. LA is the much better city. The only thing SF had over LA was being more urban with better public transit. Well, now that LA is building up and urbanizing all the way from DTLA to Santa Monica and its adding many miles of subway/light rail tracks, SF doesn't even have an easy win on that. DTLA is a fantastic urban neighborhood...maybe one of the best in the country. It's possible to live in DTLA/Mid-Wilshire/Hollywood/WeHo without a car or in a car-light household and walk/take public transit/bike places. LA has the friendlier people, more attractive people, the better weather, better nightlife, better food, more affordable housing (comparatively), and is just overall the better place to live for most people.
Yeah that stuff is all on nice paper, but living there sucks and most people would not be down with it. LA is the much better city. The only thing SF had over LA was being more urban with better public transit.
Yeah that stuff is all on nice paper, but living there sucks and most people would not be down with it. LA is the much better city. The only thing SF had over LA was being more urban with better public transit. Well, now that LA is building up and urbanizing all the way from DTLA to Santa Monica and its adding many miles of subway/light rail tracks, SF doesn't even have an easy win on that. DTLA is a fantastic urban neighborhood...maybe one of the best in the country. It's possible to live in DTLA/Mid-Wilshire/Hollywood/WeHo without a car or in a car-light household and walk/take public transit/bike places. LA has the friendlier people, more attractive people, the better weather, better nightlife, better food, more affordable housing (comparatively), and is just overall the better place to live for most people.
Yea. I mean SF is more urban. So if you want to pretend you live in Queens or something, I guess SF is the closest you will get on the west Coast.
But yea, better nightlife, better cuisine (SF only wins in fine dining), better and more nightlife, , better and more entertainment venues (sports, performing arts, etc.) more things to do. It's just not even close.
LA is like NYC, in that you can discover new things your whole life there. SF is the type of city you can figure out in a couple years. SD is the type of town you can figure out in a month and a huge snooze fest.
Yeah that stuff is all on nice paper, but living there sucks and most people would not be down with it. LA is the much better city. The only thing SF had over LA was being more urban with better public transit. Well, now that LA is building up and urbanizing all the way from DTLA to Santa Monica and its adding many miles of subway/light rail tracks, SF doesn't even have an easy win on that. DTLA is a fantastic urban neighborhood...maybe one of the best in the country. It's possible to live in DTLA/Mid-Wilshire/Hollywood/WeHo without a car or in a car-light household and walk/take public transit/bike places. LA has the friendlier people, more attractive people, the better weather, better nightlife, better food, more affordable housing (comparatively), and is just overall the better place to live for most people.
Do you live in SF? I live here and enjoy it quite immensely. LA is great and I love California, but let's be mindful of blanket statements not rooted in facts/data.
I pick LA. I dont like SD or SF architecture. Quite boring. I like the different mixes of style over the many generations especially googie, art deco/streamline moderne, and mid century modern. There is no single style that dominates the city/metro which makes for more interesting styles good or bad but also allows for new future buildings in these mixed style neighborhoods. I prefer the varying weather of LA area, too but similar to SD weather. I like that there are so many different areas of LA to experience that vary from neighborhood to neighborhood. I think having so many large ethnic populations help to make many of them distinct. I love that there is so much happening in LA now that ever before. Soon to have a superbowl, world cup match, and a third Olympics.
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