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Old 06-05-2009, 09:15 AM
 
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I can't help similing reading this response. I must say I am impressed by your argument, though I can't say I agree.

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After having seen pictures of Des Moines state capitol building, there's no way I can call the city plain Jane. And to me, any city that's got a landscaped walkable park space on a river or canal downtown can't be plain jane. Too many cities out there without any water feature downtown, just buildings, to lump cities that do have them into the same plain jane category. Now, for Kansas City, for as big a city as it is with as much downtown riverfront as it has, it seems to skimp on riverfront park space. I'd be much quicker to call it plain jane than Indianapolis with its Canal Walk and riverfront park space or Columbus with its Battelle Riverfront Park or North Bank Riverfront Park or Ohio State University which is a riverfront campus with riverfront park space and trails and pedestrian bridges. Or Minneapolis with its downtown riverfront parks and downtown waterfall and pedestrian mall. I don't know how somebody can call that plain jane. Or Madison's scenic overlook of Lake Monona and capitol complex.

If I was going to pick from the midwest I'd pick places like Bloomington, IL or Green Bay, WI. When you have a beautiful scenic landscaped and pedestrian friendly downtown waterfront, it's just not possible to be plain jane. The aesthetic embrace of such a significant natural feature automatically disqualifies a place from being plain jane in my book. If 50 cities have well landscaped and manicured beautiful riverfront parks, those 50 cities aren't plain jane just because all 50 have that feature. 50 beautiful women in a Miss America Pageant doesn't make them all of a sudden plain jane just because their beauty is comparable and none of them have graced the cover of a major fashion magazine.
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:17 AM
 
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Note that I said characters for a city its size. It is home to a couple corporations. Unless I work in that industry, I would not know about that nor care. When I walk around the neighborhoods in that city, I can't tell where I am. You need more than a couple of sports franchises and corporate headquarters to make a place unique. If you can tell where you are by plopping yourself in any random city neighborhood, it is unique.
Every place is unique to some sort of degree, but if its a large place that is unique to a small degree compared to its size, I'd call it plain jane.
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:48 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Charlotte also has its characters. For example, it is the headquarter of now the world's largest bank, Bank of America, as well as the now gone Wachovia. Its people usually refer to its downtown as uptown, etc. Once you get to know a city, they certainly have some kind of memorable characters.
Seems like you're focusing more on uniqueness of identity than on visual aesthetics, how visually pleasing a place is.
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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LOL, then most cities aren't real cities, because a lot of big cities use tourism as their biggest form of revenue!
Cities like NYC and DC happen to attract a lot of tourists, but the nation's financial industry and federal government would still employ millions of people without the museums and monuments.

Cities like Atlantic City, Las Vegas, and Orlando would never exist in their present-day forms if it were not for the tourist-traps like casinos and theme parks that bring visitors to their cities. Those places aren't real cities, they're playgrounds.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:36 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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I care what you think too.
I appreciate that!

Hey jjacobeclark, looks like you were WRONG! And BTW, I spoke about waterfronts in this thread on page 15 and this thread is 16 pages long so far. Yet you mention something about some supposed waterfront tirade I've been on throughout this entire thread. Are you hallucinating? Or are you just clueless? AGAIN!

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Old 06-05-2009, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Mile high city
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Don't pretend like you haven't been going on and on and on and on about waterfronts on this forum, just maybe not this specific thread. I just did a search of the website using the terms "MantaRay" and "waterfront" and got 2 pages of results.
//www.city-data.com/forum/searc...rchid=13317297

As far as Denver's "waterfront" goes, the Platte River can hardly even be considered a river. It's more like a shallow stream. The city had to buy special gondolas that can float in as little as 11 inches of water. Nice waterfront.
The platte river a mere shallow stream? Once again jacob you have no idea what you are taking about...

The Platte River is an approximately 310 mi (500 km) long river in the Western United States. It is a tributary to the Missouri River, which in turn is a tributary to the Mississippi River. Platte River being one of the most significant river systems in the watershed of the Missouri, it drains a large portion of the central Great Plains in Nebraska and the eastern Rocky Mountains in Colorado and Wyoming. The river was highly significant in the westward expansion of the United States, providing the route for several major westward trails, including the Oregon Trail and the Mormon Trail. In the 18th century, it was also known among French fur trappers who explored it as the Nebraska River.
Platte River - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 06-05-2009, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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The platte river a mere shallow stream? Once again jacob you have no idea what you are taking about...

The Platte River is an approximately 310 mi (500 km) long river in the Western United States. It is a tributary to the Missouri River, which in turn is a tributary to the Mississippi River. Platte River being one of the most significant river systems in the watershed of the Missouri, it drains a large portion of the central Great Plains in Nebraska and the eastern Rocky Mountains in Colorado and Wyoming. The river was highly significant in the westward expansion of the United States, providing the route for several major westward trails, including the Oregon Trail and the Mormon Trail. In the 18th century, it was also known among French fur trappers who explored it as the Nebraska River.
Platte River - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You do live in Denver, right? If you did, you would know that the South Platte is a mere trickle as it winds its way through the city of Denver. It doesn't get larger until you get about half-way through Nebraska. Nice try, but takes more than cutting-and-pasting articles from Wikipedia to prove me wrong.

Will you just look at that raging river!!!

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Old 06-05-2009, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Mile high city
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You do live in Denver, right? If you did, you would know that the South Platte is a mere trickle as it winds its way through the city of Denver. It doesn't get larger until you get about half-way through Nebraska. Nice try, but takes more than cutting-and-pasting articles from Wikipedia to prove me wrong.

Will you just look at that raging river!!!
Seriously could you find a worst picture of the 310 mile platte river? isnt that in the winter when the river is at its lowest???




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Old 06-05-2009, 08:52 PM
 
Location: West Cobb County, GA (Atlanta metro)
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The door will be closing shortly on this topic if folks don't stop bickering and just stick to the topic.

No more warnings.

Thank you
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Old 06-06-2009, 08:51 AM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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Newark is insane Jane
and Providence is just not plain jane.

The two cities are by far, way to unique to be on your list.
To the OP
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Plain Jane to me is probably no where to be found in this country, but if I was to make a close call, I'd say Tampa, FL

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