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View Poll Results: Which city offers the best institutions of higher education?
Los Angeles 26 34.67%
Washington D.C. 17 22.67%
New York City 32 42.67%
Voters: 75. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-12-2009, 06:08 AM
 
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1) Boston
2) New York City
3) Philadelphia (Including New Jersey)
4) Washington DC
5) San Francisco
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Old 07-12-2009, 07:14 AM
 
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Maybe in the giant NY CSA area, but if you're going to do that you have to include Baltimore (Johns Hopkins) with D.C. New Haven is 80 miles from NYC. Is it really fair to say that NY can claim both Princeton and Yale in its metro? That doesn't seem right. You could argue they're in the same "urban area", but New haven and NYC are totally distinct metros, just like Baltimore and D.C.
New Haven as a distinct metro? Nuh.
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Old 07-12-2009, 01:55 PM
 
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I suppose we could just continue sweeping cities together to make gigantic mega-cities, but I think we should keep the metros as localized as possible. Incorporating New Haven into NYC is like grouping Sacramento and San Francisco together.

I think we should keep L.A. metro to L.A. and Orange counties, D.C. to just VA and MD suburbs (not Baltimore) and limit NYC to long island and northern Jersey, those seem like the most plausible definitions of metros.
But our trains go to New Haven



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List of colleges and universities in New York City - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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There are about 594,000[4]university students in New York City attending 110 universities and colleges.[5]. New York State is the nation’s largest importer of college students, according to statistics which show that among freshmen who leave their home states to attend college, more come to New York than any other state, including California. Enrollment in New York State is led by New York City, which is home to more university students than any other city in the United States.[6]

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Public postsecondary education is provided by the City University of New York (CUNY). CUNY has over 450,000 students and is the third-largest university system in the United States. It has graduated the highest number of Nobel Laureates of any public university in the world. CUNY's history dates back to the formation of the Free Academy in 1847. Much of its student body, which represent 145 countries, consists of new immigrants to New York City. CUNY has campuses in all of the five boroughs, with 11 four-year colleges, 6 two-year colleges, a law school, a graduate school, a medical school, an honors college, and a journalism school. A third of college graduates in New York City are CUNY graduates, with the institution enrolling about half of all college students in New York City. The City University's alumni include Jonas Salk, Colin Powell, Andrew Grove, co-founder of Intel, Barbara Boxer, Harvey Pitt, Paul Simon, Art Garfunkel, and Joy Behar.
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New York City is also home to such notable universities as Barnard College, Berkeley College, Columbia University, Cooper Union, Fordham University, The New School, New York Institute of Technology, New York University, New York Law School, Pace University, Polytechnic University, St. John's University, Teachers College, Columbia University, Long Island University, and Yeshiva University. The city has dozens of other private colleges and universities, including many religious and special-purpose institutions, such as The Juilliard School and The School of Visual Arts. Columbia University is an Ivy League university in upper Manhattan. It was established in 1754 as King's College and is the fifth oldest chartered institution of higher education in the United States. During these early years, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, Gouverneur Morris, and Robert Livingston studied at Columbia. The current President of the United States, Barack Obama, is also an alumnus.
Barnard College is a highly selective independent women's college, one of the original Seven Sisters, affiliated with Columbia. Through a reciprocal agreement, Barnard and Columbia students share classes, housing, and extracurricular activities, and Barnard graduates receive the degree of the University. Barnard's alumnae include Anna Quindlen, Martha Stewart, Zora Neale Hurston, and Margaret Mead.
New York University (NYU) is a major research university in lower Manhattan. Founded in 1831 by a group of prominent New Yorkers, NYU has become the largest private, not-for-profit university in the United States with a total enrollment of 39,408. The University comprises 14 schools, colleges, and divisions, which occupy six major centers across Manhattan.
New York Law School is a private law school in lower Manhattan and is one of the oldest independent law schools in the United States. The Law School was founded in 1891 by a group of faculty, students, and alumni of Columbia Law School led by their founding dean, Theodore William Dwight, a prominent figure in the history of American legal education. Dwight and his fellow trailblazers broke away from Columbia College to protest teaching methods they did not support. They established New York Law School in Lower Manhattan—where it has remained ever since—in the heart of the city’s legal, financial, government, and corporate headquarters.
The Cooper Union is a tuition-free school specializing in art, architecture and engineering. It is a privately funded school in the East Village that boasts one of the lowest admission rates in the US (10~12%) as it maintains an exclusive student body of 900 students.
Fordham University, which has campuses in Manhattan and the Bronx, was the first Catholic university in the northeast. It was founded in 1841 and is run by the Jesuits. The university has four undergraduate schools and six graduate schools in these fields: law, education, social work, business, religion, and arts and sciences. In addition to Manhattan and the Bronx, Fordham has three other campuses, two in Westchester County, New York, and one in Beijing, China.Pace University, which has campuses in lower Manhattan and Westchester County, specializes in business and finance courses. With its competitive debate, Mock Trial, and Moot Court teams, the school has an intensive law program. The school's Honor College is 28th in the nation.
Yeshiva University is a competitive Jewish university in Washington Heights with a strong rabbinical school.
The New School, whose graduate faculty was founded by scholars exiled by totalitarian regimes in Europe during the 1930s and 1940s, is known for its progressive intellectual tradition. This university is made up of several different and unique divisions, including The New School for Drama, Parsons The New School for Design, Eugene Lang College The New School for Liberal Arts, The New School for Social Research, and Mannes College The New School for Music
Marymount Manhattan College is located in Manhattan's Upper East Side and is a small liberal arts college.
Long Island University, in downtown Brooklyn, hosts the Friends World Program, an international studies college with regional centers around the globe founded by Quakers in 1965. The University also issues the prestigious annual Polk Awards in journalism.
Wagner College, founded in 1883, is a small liberal arts college located in the borough of Staten Island. It has won national recognition for its innovative undergraduate curriculum.
St. John's University, located in the borough of Queens, is run by the Vincentian Fathers and is one of the largest Catholic universities in the United States. Campuses are also located in Staten Island, Manhattan, and Rome, Italy.
New York Institute of Technology, which has campuses in Manhattan and Long Island, specializes in career-oriented education. NYIT also operates the only college of Osteopathic Medicine in New York State.
Bramson ORT College is an undergraduate college in New York City operated by the American branch of the Jewish charity World ORT. Its main campus is in Forest Hills, Queens, with a satellite campus in Brooklyn.
In addition to many more universities, New York City is home to several of the nation's top schools of art and design, including Pratt Institute, the School of Visual Arts, and the Fashion Institute of Technology. Three of the nation's most prestigious conservatories, The Juilliard School, the Manhattan School of Music, and Mannes College The New School for Music are located on the Upper West Side.
The city is also the only place that is home to two top-five ranked law schools in the United States. In the latest edition of the rankings, U.S. News and World Report places Columbia Law School fourth and New York University School of Law fifth as top law schools in the U.S.[8]
The New York Academy of Sciences is a society of some 20,000 scientists of all disciplines from 150 countries. It seeks to advance the understanding of science, technology, and medicine, and to stimulate new ways to think about how research is applied in society and the world. It is also active in human rights and seeks to promote the rights of scientists, health professionals, engineers, and educators around the world. Past members include Thomas Jefferson, James Monroe, Charles Darwin, John James Audubon, and Albert Einstein. In 2005 its President's Council included 16 Nobel Prize winners.
The American University of Beirut in Lebanon and the American University in Cairo in Egypt hold charters from the state of New York. Both universities maintain administrative offices in New York City.
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Old 07-12-2009, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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1) Boston
2) New York City
3) Philadelphia (Including New Jersey)
4) Washington DC
5) San Francisco
NYC, Phili and DC is no way better than the Bay Area in higher education. UC Berkeley and Stanford blow away any of the top schools within those metros.
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Old 07-12-2009, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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UCLA, USC > NYU

Cal Tech > Columbia

National Universities Rankings - Best Colleges - Education - US News and World Report

So I'll definitely have to say LA. I'm also citing USNews which happens to have a strong Ivy-league bias.
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Old 07-12-2009, 02:47 PM
 
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Depends on the fields. Even if we're sticking with just inside the borders of NYC, you have schools top-ranked in law, film, fashion, architecture, business, journalism, foreign policy, fine arts, performing arts, education, philosophy, mathematics, and some others. That's a lot of categories (though the sciences are notably missing).

Columbia and NYU are certainly contend with Cal and Stanford in most fields. UCSF and Rockefeller University are also equals of sorts. There's no blowing away, really. Just a good, fair fight.
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Old 07-12-2009, 02:56 PM
 
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Depends on the fields. Even if we're sticking with just inside the borders of NYC, you have schools top-ranked in law, film, fashion, architecture, business, journalism, foreign policy, fine arts, performing arts, education, philosophy, mathematics, and some others. That's a lot of categories (though the sciences are notably missing).

Columbia and NYU are certainly contend with Cal and Stanford in most fields. UCSF and Rockefeller University are also equals of sorts. There's no blowing away, really. Just a good, fair fight.
Same with UCLA and USC. And speaking of specialty schools, Cal Tech is the best school of it's sort in the country with the possible exception of MIT.
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Old 07-12-2009, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Depends on the fields. Even if we're sticking with just inside the borders of NYC, you have schools top-ranked in law, film, fashion, architecture, business, journalism, foreign policy, fine arts, performing arts, education, philosophy, mathematics, and some others. That's a lot of categories (though the sciences are notably missing).

Columbia and NYU are certainly contend with Cal and Stanford in most fields. UCSF and Rockefeller University are also equals of sorts. There's no blowing away, really. Just a good, fair fight.
According to the Academic Ranking of World Universities,

Stanford - 2
UC Berkeley - 4
Cal Tech - 6
UCLA - 13
Columbia - 7
NYU - 31
Rockefeller University - 32

As the first multi-indicator ranking of global universities, ARWU has attracted a great deal of attention from universities, governments and public media worldwide since its publication. A survey on higher education published by The Economist in 2005 commented ARWU as “the most widely used annual ranking of the world’s research universities”. Bollag (2006) wrote on Chronicle of Higher Education that ARWU “is considered the most influential international ranking”

Definitely Columbia is on par with Stanford, UC Berkeley and Cal Tech but NYU is no way in the same league as those schools. You can argue that in certain fields it may rival some of those schools, but I believe we're comparing Universities overall.
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Old 07-12-2009, 03:09 PM
 
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The ARWU is heavily weighted towards the sciences and mathematics. How does the ARWU account for NYU's very strong Tisch school of the arts or its philosophy department? The same goes with schools like FIT, Pratt, and Julliard (this argument also holds for AFI in LA). Stanford and Berkeley aren't particularly well-known for their fine and performing arts.

That Rockefeller University, given how tiny it is, even appears on the list shows you how remarkable the institution is. It is at or around the top for what it does.
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Old 07-12-2009, 03:47 PM
 
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NYC, Phili and DC is no way better than the Bay Area in higher education. UC Berkeley and Stanford blow away any of the top schools within those metros.
How can you say that when there is Ivy league schools in Philadelphia, New Jersey, and New York City.

1) Princeton University-Princeton, New Jersey
2) Columbia University-New York City, New York
3) University of Pennsylvania-Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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