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Old 05-28-2019, 11:26 AM
 
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No way in hell. Im sorry but as bad as LA's was, it cant touch NYC's at its peak(s). Numbers dont lie, check out the murder rate(s). Having more gangs doesn't necessarily mean more murder and/or danger for life. NYC was the definition of a concrete jungle from the early 70's all the way to the mid 90's.
Both cities at their worst had nearly identical murder rates, literally 30.7 per 100,000k for NYC and 30.3 for LA. When you look at the entire metro areas(greater NYC and greater LA), LA had the higher murder rate. Compton alone averaged about 100 murders per 100,000k. The most dangerous city in greater NYC- Newark NJ never had more than 67 murders per 100,000k.
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Old 05-28-2019, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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The projects in large cities like LA, Chicago, and NYC made those cities *really* bad in the 80's and 90's. Thankfully virtually all of them are gone today. Now crime is more spread out, but there's much less murders overall. NYC is so much better than it was then.
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Old 05-28-2019, 05:55 PM
 
Location: South Central to Harlem to SF
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Oakland, NYC, Compton, Detroit, Atlanta etc
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Old 05-28-2019, 08:14 PM
 
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No way in hell. Im sorry but as bad as LA's was, it cant touch NYC's at its peak(s). Numbers dont lie, check out the murder rate(s). Having more gangs doesn't necessarily mean more murder and/or danger for life. NYC was the definition of a concrete jungle from the early 70's all the way to the mid 90's.
Fas as murder rates,Los Angeles was worse ( 33.7 )
NYC with 8 million residents produced 2,000+ murders.
LA city with 3 million residents produced 1,000+ murders

New York was definitely more dangerous in the 1970's, but in the 1980's & 1990's, Los Angeles made the biggest impact on street crime due to it's gang problem.

A better outlook would be to compare the homicide numbers for the 5 boroughs vs LA county since they're both similar in population.
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Old 05-28-2019, 08:22 PM
 
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Compton peaked at 87 in 1991 with a little over 90,000 residents. The Englewood district in Chicago saw 87 murders in 2016 with 58,277 residents. Compton was only probably half black half Latino though while Englewood is pretty much all black.
Compton was most definitely a top 5 dangerous city in the 90's and so was Chicago.

But like NYC, Chicago worse decade was in the 1970's.
I don't think Chicago ever produced over 1,000 homicides like New York or Los Angeles but it did break the 900+ mark a couple of times in history.

Let's just say every city was dangerous in the 90's.
Even though the 80's was the deadliest decade in history.
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Old 05-29-2019, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Compton was most definitely a top 5 dangerous city in the 90's and so was Chicago.

But like NYC, Chicago worse decade was in the 1970's.
I don't think Chicago ever produced over 1,000 homicides like New York or Los Angeles but it did break the 900+ mark a couple of times in history.

Let's just say every city was dangerous in the 90's.
Even though the 80's was the deadliest decade in history.
That's putting it lightly. Half the 90s was around that number.
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Old 05-30-2019, 02:09 AM
 
Location: Nashville
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I remember as a kid being terrified watching movies about the Cabrini-Green projects in Chicago.. It looked like one of the roughest hoods I ever seen. Something about those giant buildings full of gangs and thugs just made it seem like it was haunted or something.

I actually remember driving through South Los Angeles in the 90s and it looks pretty scary, but I have to say driving through St. Louis even today still looks worse (at least from the outside) than Los Angeles looked back then. But, Los Angeles was always known as a very clean and polished on the outside, crime-ridden ghetto. Although, it didn't look all that nice when I would be driving through certain parts of Los Angeles in the 90s. I never been to Compton, but my uncle drove through Compton in the 1980s and told me many of homes were pretty run-down and he saw a lot of buildings with bullet holes. I to this day still have no clue why he was in Compton as I hear it was (and still is, actually) pretty dangerous place even to be just driving down the street because of amount of turf-related gang activity. Another wonderful memory I had in the early 90s was being at Venice Beach the day before two rival gangs had a shootout on the boardwalk hitting many innocent bystanders.
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Both cities at their worst had nearly identical murder rates, literally 30.7 per 100,000k for NYC and 30.3 for LA. When you look at the entire metro areas(greater NYC and greater LA), LA had the higher murder rate. Compton alone averaged about 100 murders per 100,000k. The most dangerous city in greater NYC- Newark NJ never had more than 67 murders per 100,000k.
Harlem and the South Bronx both had MORE people than Compton and murder rates over 100. Robberies were also universally higher in NYC than in LA. LA had palm trees and private homes, NYC had abandoned buildings and vacant lots. Like I said before, LA was blood/crips, NYC was drug organizations.
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Old 05-30-2019, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Jackson,MS had one of the highest homicides rates in the country during the 90s. 92 homicides in 1995.
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:22 PM
 
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Gary was at a murder rate of 116.00 in 1995 with 130 homicides and a population of 112,000. It was consistently being named the FBI's most dangerous city and or the murder capital for most of the decade. The only place I know of that had a higher rate at the time is Chicago's 11th district centered in Garfield Park.
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