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my point is D.C actually IS a small city when compared to chicago..
no sh#*. that's not the point and it has no effect on a murder rate being higher or lower than if the city is smaller. do you understand the concept of murder rates? do you even know what per capita means?
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so comparing the two in terms of crime rates is pointless..500 murders during the 90's for chicago would've been considered a GOOD thing..same for nyc and L.A..
of course it would have. chicago was what about 4 times the population of dc? do the math. dc had half the murders chicago had with 1/4 the population. it's simple math and if you can't grasp this then you really have no credibility to argue this. and chicago today has less murders than dc had and it's still considered dangerous. so a city that's like 4 times bigger than dc in city limits has less murders than dc had and is still considered dangerous. that speaks volumes of how violent dc actually was in the 90s.
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and as for that "bad side/good side of the city" talk you're doing, the same could be said for east saint louis..every city has a bad side/good side..
i'm pretty sure east st louis has no good neighborhoods. if it does have this "good part," it is tiny enough to be moot anyway. it's similar to compton and camden. it's too small to have "sides." it pretty much is a "side."
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no sh#*. that's not the point and it has no effect on a murder rate being higher or lower than if the city is smaller. do you understand the concept of murder rates? do you even know what per capita means?
i know exactly what it means..and depending on how small or big the city is..it actually DOES have an effect on the murder rate..i can't believe you don't understand that
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of course it would have. chicago was what about 4 times the population of dc? do the math. dc had half the murders chicago had with 1/4 the population. it's simple math and if you can't grasp this then you really have no credibility to argue this. and chicago today has less murders than dc had and it's still considered dangerous. so a city that's like 4 times bigger than dc in city limits has less murders than dc had and is still considered dangerous. that speaks volumes of how violent dc actually was in the 90s.
see, thats why you can't compare the two..chicago is a highly segregated city, and have always had heavily populated neighborhoods where there wasn't much (if any) crime..so that would automatically bring a certain balance to the city..but does that mean chicago is not as violent as d.c? no, it just means we have more areas in the city where crime is not an issue..but the areas that are bad, are really bad..
and yes chicago is still considered dangerous today because nationwide, the murder rates are a lot lower then in the 90's...the years d.c was at its worst was also at the time when the rest of countries major cities was too, so d.c didn't stand out..
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i'm pretty sure east st louis has no good neighborhoods. if it does have this "good part," it is tiny enough to be moot anyway. it's similar to compton and camden. it's too small to have "sides." it pretty much is a "side."
every city has good parts, and just like you may consider east saint louis as "tiny", we also look at d.c in general as "tiny" too..see how that works?
Chicago(3.8mil) is 6.3 X bigger than DC(600k) and DC had almost half its murders in the 90's...so if Chicago had 970 murders as its peak...at the size of DC it would have 970/6.3=153 homicides..If DC were the size of Chicago it would've had 482x6.3+=3036 homicides..Ppl say DC isnt as big but its just not DC its also PG County...NE,SE DC has about 70% of DC murders and inside the beltway of PG would guess around 80-90%..so that area of 500k+ ppl would compare to any major area in any major city..even NY
Chicago(3.8mil) is 6.3 X bigger than DC(600k) and DC had almost half its murders in the 90's...so if Chicago had 970 murders as its peak...at the size of DC it would have 970/6.3=153 homicides..If DC were the size of Chicago it would've had 482x6.3+=3036 homicides..Ppl say DC isnt as big but its just not DC its also PG County...NE,SE DC has about 70% of DC murders and inside the beltway of PG would guess around 80-90%..so that area of 500k+ ppl would compare to any major area in any major city..even NY
Thank goodness the D.C. border PG county neighborhoods couldn't be counted in D.C.'s total in the 90's. D.C. would have had 600-700 murders. D.C. just had a different mentality back then. I don't think there has ever been a city as bad as D.C. was at the time. Well, at least that is what the FBI says.
I think most cities were way more dangerous in the 90's (especially the early 90's) than now.
In the 90's in LA, the way you showed you were a big dog/ice cold killa was by shooting up people who had nothing to do with you, your gang, any other gang... who just happened to be there, to be shot.
This sort of behaviour is the sort of behaviour that gets the cops to do just the same to gang members, and gangs typcially are more than happy to silence anyone who's sending them all up the creek.
The worst parts of Chicago were way worse then the worst parts of dc back then, and right now the ghettos in chicago alone are near the entire size of all of dc.
Who ever said dc was more dangerous and had worse housing projects then Chicago in the 90's has no idea what he's talking about.
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